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Do you clear the water out of a wort chiller after use?

Discussion in 'Equipment/Sanitation' started by mtnagel, Jun 11, 2013.

 

  1. #1
    mtnagel

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I just made a wort chiller and plan to brew this weekend. Do you bother trying to remove the leftover water from the wort chiller for storage? And if so, how do you do it?

    If it matters, I usually brew every 1-2 months.
     
  2. #2
    Mb2658

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I have an immersion chiller that I hold upside down after use and the water quickly runs out. It's as simple as that.
     
  3. #3
    mariojr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Yes. I use gravity and my air compressor to get the water out. Don't ever want that to freeze up in the winter because it will crack it.
     
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  4. #4
    LLBeanJ

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I do this as well.
     
  5. #5
    AnOldUR

    fer-men-TAY-shuhn  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Do you clear the water out of your copper pipes after taking a shower?
     
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  6. #6
    BridgewaterBrewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Tap water in copper pipe is unlikely to grow any thing nasty and if anything does thats why you boil in the wort anyway so I don't stress about getting all the water out. However if there is a good amount of water in the chiller when you put it in boiling wort you can get a jet of boiling water shooting out of it.
     
  7. #7
    Jayhem

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Why would the water in the coils matter, that water will never come into contact with wort.

    Just hang the chiller upside down on a hook for a few minutes after each use to get most if the water out to avoid a mess if you store the chiller in your house like I do.

    - J
     
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  8. #8
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    That's a good point!

    But I will mention this just as something only a dummy like me would do. Not that this actually happened, of course. :drunk:

    Say that this person didn't drain the water out, and the chiller was fine. But then, they stuck it in the brewpot to sanitize (an immersion chiller) before hooking up the hoses. And then just suppose that they had no awareness of science and how the wort would cause the liquid IN the chiller to boil as well and so this water would expand and shoot boiling water out at the brewer standing right there.

    Now I'm not saying this was me, of course. Because that would be admitting doing something very very stupid.

    But after that, a brewer might find they should either a) empty the chiller by just holding it upside down or blowing through it, or b) hook the hoses up before placing the chiller in the wort to sanitize, or c) both.

    I'm not saying this was me!

    :drunk:
     
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  9. #9
    glugglug

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Yooper makes a good point, not that it happened to him, and also the fact that it could freeze is also a good point. I always blow the water out. Why not?
     
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  10. #10
    mtnagel

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Thanks all. Looks like I will try to drain it out by holding it upside down.

    As I said, I only brew every 1-2 months whereas I use my water daily or more. Sitting water will grow mold and even though that will never make it into my beer, why not try to avoid to that?

    Hehe.
     
  11. #11
    AnOldUR

    fer-men-TAY-shuhn  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Sometimes the question is "why" not "why not." If you store your IC in a place where it could freeze or don't hook up the lines before putting it in your wort, then sure, drain it. For most purposes it's just a waste of time.

    Kind of like, "why not sanitize the water in you HLT before mashing in."
     
  12. #12
    TyTanium

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Water in the chiller also means more mass to heat when you first stick it in the wort...may temporarily lose your boil.
     
  13. #13
    mtnagel

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I did answer why. Because I don't want mold growing in the tube.
     
  14. #14
    Revvy

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    You really really really need to get in the habit of somehow blowing out the water in your chiller, if you don't, and you brew in the late fall or early winter in a cold clime, you are going to forget and perhaps even leave it in the garage, where it's going to freeze, and the next time you go to use it, you'll probably post something like this that happened to a friend of mine.

    You can do it with an air compresser, you can do it with your red oxygen bottle or aquairum pump if you use those to aerate your wort, or you can do it with your lungs if you are reasonably healthy. But if you live in a clime with a winter, you really should make removing the water a habit for every brew day.
     
  15. #15
    mtnagel

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Thanks for that. I probably would store it in my garage and while not temperature controlled, I don't think it ever gets to freezing, but better safe than sorry.
     
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    hunter_le five

    Sheriff Underscore

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I too learned that lesson the hard way. I had even dumped "most" of the water out, but there was enough left in the coil to build up pressure and squirt a boiling glob at me.

    Now I let it drain a full 30 minutes before I put it up after my brewday. That may be overkill, but I'd like to avoid a repeat close call.
     
  17. #17
    AnOldUR

    fer-men-TAY-shuhn  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    There's really no reason to put your IC in the wort until your ready to start the chill. Clean it before storing and rinse it before you chill.

    As for the leaky IC. Personally, I hook up the lines and start the flow before putting it in the kettle. But that's just me. There are too many reasons for a leak to develop to not give yourself the chance of catching it beforehand. But I do agree with Revvy. If you store it in a place that has the slightest chance of freezing, drain it.
     
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  18. #18
    Felixio

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    That does make a lot of sense. I'm not saying that I've learned it from experience as well. I'm not saying you did either. But I will say that I drain my immersion chiller after every use.
     
  19. #19
    PackerfaninSanDiego

    Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I wonder how many are laughing at those that remove the water in their wort chiller?
     
  20. #20
    Revvy

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc  

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Who gives a care? Noone who lives in a cold clime is laughing, I know three different brewers who had ruptured chillers and ruined batches that way...
     
  21. #21
    MuddyCreek

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    Heh heh... Yoop blows her chiller.
     
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  22. #22
    DPBISME

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    I do just by turning it upside down but any that is left stays.

    Mostly to make sure I don't track water all over the place.

    Some always comes outthe next time it goes in the wort for it's 20 minute boil before I start running water through it.



    DPB
     
  23. #23
    Shred

    Beer Brewer & Blogger

    Posted Jun 11, 2013
    *Her ;)
     
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