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DIY Fermentation Cabinet

Discussion in 'Fermenters' started by DeathBrewer, Nov 2, 2008.

 

  1. #1
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    Winter isn't too bad around here. It rains a lot and the parties are dead, but at least my beer keeps cold. In fact, I'm really looking forward to making some beers with my conical now that the ambient temp in the brewhouse has gone down. Last winter i made some of my best beers ever.

    But then summer came and it made a fruity, estery mess of my beers. That got me in a mood, so i bought a bunch of lumber, an AC unit, some casters, a whole mess of styrofoam and some screws.

    Here's some of that mess which became my fermentation cabinet:

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    You wouldn't believe how i got those huge panels of foam home in my scirocco.

    We started with the base:

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    Then screwed in the casters:

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  2. #2
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    beautiful, start isn't it?

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    at this point we realized i had made it too wide (i wanted to fit at least four carboys in there) and it wouldn't roll out the door. whoops!

    It's not going to leave the building any time soon, however, so we simply constructed the rest out of their own frames, like you would do with a window. Here's the back being set up:

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    Here you can see it sitting on the base. This made it very easy to screw it down:

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  3. #3
    Kauai_Kahuna

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    Looks good so far, please snap some pictures of the cooling setup and the finished product please. Right now I'm using an old fridge, but I can only fit two carboys in there.
     
  4. #4
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    A nice thick, flat piece of plywood was screwed into the base before we added the panels. We put the panels together with plywood before we attached the panels to the base. The doors were made of a simple 2x4 and 2x2 frame.

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    Here's a pic of us holding it together. the plywood hangs over the sides enough so that we can screw it into the frame and the sides overlapped the back panel. it also made it look better, as you couldn't see the framework:

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    a pic from the inside after we screwed them all together:

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    and the outside:

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  5. #5
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    the plywood kept it all solid. We screwed the back panel down into the base, then screwed the sides into the back and the base:

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    Then came adding the foam. The first part was pretty cool, just get 1.5" foam to match the 2x4 frame and cut them perfectly. We added some glue and shoved them right in:

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  6. #6
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    any gaps you see were filled in with liquid foam.

    After we added the layers of foam inside the frame, we added a full 1.5" layer of foam on the inside and back, cutting only a hole for the AC unit.

    We added the top (unfortunately i don't have pictures) overlapping the same way after we installed the foam and screwed it into the back and the sides. this made everything so solid, i could stand on it confidently.

    Here is the cabinet as it is now:

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    We installed hinges on the door and lined around the doors with stripping. You can see the extra layers of foam here. We also put a thin piece of plywood on top of the bottom foam so it wouldn't get damaged from moving carboys in and out:

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    And here it is full of beer. it fits six carboys, easy. you can see the ac unit in the back and we drilled an additional whole for the cable to come out and attach to the external temperature controller.:

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    The foam pieces are all glued only to their individual panels, so it can be taken apart piece by piece (top, sides, and then back) and moved. We added liquid foam to seal them a bit, but nothing a razor blade won't take care of.

    In addition, here is some math my friend did for the energy it would take to cool in regards to space, insulation, etc. it works pretty efficiently. it kicks on every few hours for a couple of minutes and maintains a nice ambient 58°F:

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  7. #7
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    he's a mechanical engineer. i don't understand a letter (there is often a lack of numbers :D) of this ****:

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  8. #8
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    anyway, that's it. all i left to do to it is add some thicker stripping (it doesn't quite get the seal i'd like) and replace the straps with something permanent. They work well but are kind of a PITA.

    This was actually easy as hell to build...it only took two weekends and it was usuable immediately after construction. Now the problem is what to do with my beer when this is full! I think i'll do something for my apartment next...

    Feel free to ask any questions. It's been a long time since i built this, so i may have left things out. i could also take more pictures if you want to see something specific.
    Cheers! :mug:

    :rockin:
     
  9. #9
    lapaglia

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    Whats the lowest temp you can achieve in this?
     
  10. #10
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    I've tested it down to the mid 40s, but it could probably go in the thirties. it's pretty efficient. i'm sure i could use it for lagers, but this is my ale fermentation cabinet. i hope to get a chest freezer for lagering soon...i have truck payments now, can't throw money around like i used to.
     
  11. #11
    kappclark

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    with the AC, abt how much did the project cost ? (Can you tell I am not a builder ?)
     
  12. #12
    Zymurgrafi

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    Wonder how to adapt this to keep beer warm... For us Northerners. :D

    Nice work. Kind of like a rolling walk-in.
     
  13. #13
    GorGor

    New Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    where's the pic of me drinking a beer whilst helping you out?
     
  14. #14
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    hey! Gor! i edited that pic for this family environment. :D

    AC unit was $100.00. i think the total cost was around $450-500.00. i bought everything new, tho. the only stuff i got free was the plywood for the sides, back and front (i bought thick, flat plywood for the base and top.)

    hmm...i guess you'd have to add a heating element that wouldn't melt the foam. or just use it for lagering ;)
     
  15. #15
    Sager Brewing Co.

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    This is great, just want I was looking for. I have a window air unit like that from when we lived in an apartment. This is for sure my next project.
     
  16. #16
    eschatz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    That looks great man! Have someone add it to the DIY projects sticky for sure. You earned it.

    This looks pretty do-able for most people. :mug:
     
  17. #17
    Strigoi

    New Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    i want to see now. post it elsewhere.
     
  18. #18
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    Hey! What are all my friends doing here!?? i come here to get AWAY from you people!

    :p
     
  19. #19
    Strigoi

    New Member

    Posted Nov 2, 2008
    you should have known this would happen if you posted a link. :mug:
     
  20. #20
    Duckfoot

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 3, 2008
    Very nice... Good to see creativity in action...
     
  21. #21
    GroovePuppy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 3, 2008
    Did you need to use external control? Wouldn't the AC unit's own control work? Obviously you'd have open up to adjust.
     
  22. #22
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 3, 2008
    yes, i chose the external controller instead of opening up all the time. plus, the ac unit just had levels (something like 1, 2, 3, 4, etc) instead of actual temperature control.
     
  23. #23
    gtg644w

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Nov 4, 2008
    Haha, I havent heard anyone congradulate the Mech E for remembering his Heat Transfer stuff... That gave me a smile, while I hope to never directly use it again--I had a basic understanding of what he was doing.
     
  24. #24
    hcarter

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 5, 2008
    Prosted.(?)
     
  25. #25
    joety

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Nov 10, 2008
    Do you keep the caps on all your airlocks? Do they work that way?
     
  26. #26
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Nov 10, 2008
    there are tiny holes in the airlock caps. i've never had a problem. if i know there is going to be a heavy fermentation, i use a blow-off tube.
     
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  27. #27
    Tripod

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 12, 2008
    Beautiful work, man!

    What kind of external temp control did you use? Was it something that came with the AC unit or did you buy something and then wire it in?

    -Tripod
     
  28. #28
    radtek

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2008
    I have a 5000btu AC that I was considering doing this with. My only concern is the air blowing directly on the fermenters and possible infections.

    What sort of controller do you use? The Ranco?
     
  29. #29
    camiller

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2008
    Put the ac in backwards? set up the temp controller to turn on on temp drop instead of rise.
     
  30. #30
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Dec 4, 2008
    lol, i wonder how long it would take to melt the foam.
     
  31. #31
    camiller

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 4, 2008
    Shouldn't run long enough to melt the foam.

    A better alternative would be to get a electric hot pad at the drug store and hook it up to the external temp controller. Heck, even a light bulb (shielded) would probably make enough heat to keep the inside warm enough.
     
  32. #32
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Dec 4, 2008
    seems like it would be a waste of energy.

    the hot pad is a better idea.
     
  33. #33
    brauhausjoe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 8, 2008
    Great Idea! What are the dimensions of this bad boy? I have been looking for a solution like this for a while, I was saving up for a freezer but it would only hold at most 4 carboys. Same money at least 8 carboys! I was wondering if I went a little taller, I might be able to get in a metal shelf and double the volume.

    Thanks for the post.
     
  34. #34
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Dec 8, 2008
    i should have taken better notes and/or posted this sooner after it was completed, as i don't have all the dimensions recorded.

    i THINK this was 42" wide, 36" deep and about 40" tall...not real sure on the height :eek:

    anyway, everyone's system should be built according to their needs.

    i just purchased a freezer and it will only hold two carboys (but it will store lots of other stuff.) the cabinet is definitely a better way to go...cheaper, too, if you do it right.
     
  35. #35
    brauhausjoe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 9, 2008
    42" and still holds 6 carboys. Sweet! I am in the planning stages for mine, Now I am thinking 48" wide x 48" deep x 72" high. maybe put a metal shelf in the middle?
     
  36. #36
    LooyvilleLarry

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 9, 2008
    I've heard that the pet supply places have a "ceramic light bulb" for keeping terrariums warm. That doesn't emit light.
     
  37. #37
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Dec 9, 2008
    that would be rad. please post pics when finished :)
     
  38. #38
    camiller

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 9, 2008
    with a shelf in the middle you won't be able to walk in to get the carboy in the back :p
     
  39. #39
    DeathBrewer

    Maniacally Malty  

    Posted Dec 9, 2008
    i'm sure you could reach in there. you may have to do a lot of switching in and out at times...be careful with your back! but still...that would hold like 18 carboys!

    :rockin: :rockin: :rockin: :rockin:
     
  40. #40
    brauhausjoe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 9, 2008
    Yea, I am thinking Meads in the hard to reach spots, they will be there longer, and the beers in the 'sweet' spots :ban:

    I saw these reptile heat lamps

    I was thinking of controlling it with a Love controller

    If the funds come in, I hope to get started soon.

    Thanks for the great idea!
     
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