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DIY element guard on the cheap

Discussion in 'Electric Brewing' started by Mannelito, May 18, 2014.

 

  1. #1
    Mannelito

    Member

    Posted May 18, 2014
    I'm looking into building my own element guard but I'm a bit uncertain about how good of an idea it is. The option I'm considering is taking a 2" TC end cap (red), drill a hole in it and then go for a regular 1" NPT heating element (teal), fixed with a locknut (grey).

    Seeing as this is a commonly used method for attaching heating elements to kettles, I thought this might work too. Any yay or nay-sayers out there?

    [​IMG]


    /Manne
     
  2. #2
    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted May 18, 2014
    Ok, so you would then have a 2" TC flat against the pot. What next? You can't get a TC clamp on that flange since it's too close to the pot.
     
  3. #3
    LordUlrich

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 19, 2014
    I am not exactly sure what you are trying to accomplish. I also see you said cheap, in my experience triclover fittings don't fit that description.
     
  4. #4
    Jawbox0

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 19, 2014
    Honestly, it's a solved problem for $30 you can get a nicely made weldless enclosure including stainless locknut from brew hardware. I'm super happy with mine:
    http://www.brewhardware.com/rimsherms-parts-93/176-elementparts

    I did the DIY weldless before this on a different pot, and I'm way happier with this enclosure.
     
  5. #5
    Mannelito

    Member

    Posted May 19, 2014
    I now realize that things in my head are not as obvious to others as they are to me, sorry about that.
    On the kettle there will be a welded 2" TC ferrule, so you put this end-cap thing on with a gasket in between, slap a clamp on it and hopefully it doesn't leak.

    Something similar to this, the pot is absent.

    [​IMG]


    A friend of mine got some welding equipment, so making an element guard on my own would prove a lot cheaper than buying a pre-made one. However, if it doesn't work, then it would be pointless and a waste of time.
     
  6. #6
    Mannelito

    Member

    Posted May 19, 2014

    You are probably right. I'm thinking it'll be easier, better and mostly of all safer to buy one. Still, I'm curious to know if this idea works.
     
  7. #7
    LordUlrich

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 19, 2014
    Should work as for connecting it to your kettle, although it does not seems to help you guard the electrical end of your element though.
     
  8. #8
    mattd2

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 19, 2014
    Why not just use a TC x 1" NPT adaptor? That is what you are accomplising in your OP (maybe a little longer using the adapter).
    Plus your design still needs to include an enclosure around the element terminals. Realisitcally you are not going to be able to make it all for much less (if any) than $30
     
  9. #9
    Mannelito

    Member

    Posted May 19, 2014

    You're right, however, after freight+import taxes, it gets expensive. The one prefab option I'm seriously considering is from Stilldragon.EU. 3 units+shipping is USD$200. It's a sturdy unit, so I guess the price is right.
     
  10. #10
    wbarber69

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 19, 2014
    I use the brewhardware.com option. It comes with either a 2" or 1.5" triclover option. And it can't be beat for the price. It'll probably cost around 200 for 3 with shipping to the eu. Plus u get great customer service from bobby.
     
  11. #11
    gunmetal

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 23, 2014
    One thing to consider, a 2" triclover cap is pretty thick. Once you put a gasket on the element there may not be much room for a nut. Better to get a cap with threads cut into it.
     
  12. #12
    passedpawn

    Some rando  

    Posted May 23, 2014
    I have a 2" ferrule welded to my HLT and BK keggles, then a silldragon element enclosure with tri clover clamps. Works a charm. Element is really easy to remove for cleaning.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. #13
    orangehero

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 23, 2014
    I really like my StillDragon element adapters.
     
  14. #14
    passedpawn

    Some rando  

    Posted May 23, 2014
    The only problem with them is the gland / strain relief they come with won't work with 10/3 wire. I bought the SS gland in that pic there and had to ream out the hole to get the new gland to fit. Not a big deal, but I think this was a design flaw in them.

    The Brewhardware enclosure looks fine too. I bought the stilldragon because a friend of mine was buying at the same time and I just added to his order.
     
  15. #15
    wbarber69

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 23, 2014
    ImageUploadedByHome Brew1400843081.151204.jpg ImageUploadedByHome Brew1400843136.412497.jpg

    These are the only pictures I have of brewhardware element enclosures. I'll try to get one of it all hooked up when I get back to the shop later.
     
  16. #16
    kevink

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 23, 2014
    You could also TIG weld or silver solder the nut to the outside of the tri clamp end cap.
     
  17. #17
    ChocolateMaltyBalls

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 27, 2014
    I'm all for DIY in most cases but this is a situation where going the easy route is likely less expensive , less time consuming, and will generally work better. The Brewhardware element housing is well put together, and much better than most (not all) of the DIY versions I've seen on here.

    ImageUploadedByHome Brew1401212931.655442.jpg


    Sent from my iPhone using Home Brew
     
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