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Diacetyl Rest with WLP810 San Francisco Lager

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by rhutter, Dec 8, 2010.

 

  1. #1
    rhutter

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 8, 2010
    Hello,

    I'm fermenting my first lager and wanted to know if anyone who has used WLP810 San Francisco Lager yeast has needed to perform a diacetyl rest with this strain, seeing as it has a recommended fermentation temperature much higher than most lager strains - 58-65 degrees F.

    I am fermenting it at 60 degrees F and can move the carboy up from the basement to a closet that I keep around 68 degrees. Would it be good to move it up there for 24-48 hours before racking to the secondary?

    Lastly, I should perform the D rest when the primary fermentation phase has slowed down, but not stopped correct? I guess when the krausen has started to fall back down, according to a bunch of posts?
     
  2. #2
    smakudwn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 8, 2010
    Im also interested in this, i got a cali common that is fermenting at about 60 degrees now. I didn't plan on doing a d rest or lagering it for any amount of time but i would like to know what other think.
     
  3. #3
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Dec 8, 2010
    I've had some diacetyl issues with that yeast strain, so I usually do a diacetyl rest with it now.

    You can just bring the temperature up about 5-10 degrees, at the end of fermentation, and that will encourage the yeast to clean up the diacetyl.

    Interestingly, the Wyeast Californa Lager yeast (Wyeast's similar strain), doesn't seem to produce as much diacetyl and I don't have to do a diacetyl rest with that stain when making the same exact recipe!
     
  4. #4
    jamest22

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 8, 2010
    Definitely do a diacetyl rest. I recently brewed a California Common with WLP 810, I made a good stirplate starter. I fermented at 62 and did a diacetyl rest at 72 once gravity dropped below 1.020. The beer turned out nice but does have some noticeable diacetyl.

    The White labs web page for WLP 810 does indicate it produces elevated amounts of diacetyl compared to other yeasts (114ppb vs 78ppb for WLP 001).

    Yooper, thats interesting info regarding Wyeast's Cali Common yeast. I'll give that a try next time.
     
  5. #5
    rhutter

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 9, 2010
    OK thanks for the advice - I'll do the D rest before racking to the secondaries for lagering.
     
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