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cooler tun

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by matc, Apr 12, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    matc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    I bought a coleman that came without a spigot so I drilled a hole and installed a waterproof valve with a copper manifold. However, when I fill my cooler and open the valve, the flow stops above the manifold. I can't get a syphon out of that damn thing and there's like a gallon left. How come ? I soldered everything ! I'll try posting a picture later on
     
  2. #2
    Revvy

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc  

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    do you have a hose on the end of your valve. A lot of folks don't realize that makes a big difference.
     
  3. #3
    Stauffbier

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    It won't pull a siphin without a hose, just like Revvy said..
     
  4. #4
    matc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    [​IMG]

    Ok here's my setup.

    And no, I stil don't have a hose attached to the end of the valve. I can't find any hight temp food grade tubing at home depot. Any idea ? So by plugging a tube on the other side, I should get a siphon ?
     
  5. #5
    Stauffbier

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    Order yourself some silicon tubing. Is that a galvanized washer I see?
     
  6. #6
    juebone

    New Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    To siphon, the "outlet" must be lower than the "inlet", otherwise you'll just drain to the level of the outlet and not below. A siphon is created when liquid flows from high to low. In your case you have no tubing to lower the outlet end of the valve below the manifold.

    To answer your question, yes, you need a hose and the outlet end of the hose must be below the bottom level of the cooler, preferable by a foot or more, or it will not siphon.
     
  7. #7
    matc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    All right thanks for the info ! And yes that's a stupid zinc plated washer in there. I can't find stailess washers around here. I'm looking at fastenal.com but I don't know the size I need for my 1/2" brass nipple. I know people use 7/8 fender washer but what should the inside diameter be ?
     
  8. #8
    dstamper441

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    I got SS washers for mine at either Home Depot or Lowe's, can't remember which, but I'm sure it was one of them.
     
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    BigBlue10EM

    Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    Yeah. I wouldn't use the zinc plated washer. It will literally be a corroded mess after just one mash. I couldn't find SS at HD or Lowes but ordered 10 SS fender washers from Fastenal for like $14. Zinc is fine for outside the MLT but you DO NOT want it inside. Throw one of them in a cup of vinegar and you'll see just how not corrosion resistant they are. It'll be corroded in just a few minutes. A 5.2 PH mash will do the same thing in 60 minutes.
     
  10. #10
    y2jrock60

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    I use a 1/2 nipple on the interior of my mash tun too. You'll need a 3/4" diameter opening in your washer.
     
  11. #11
    matc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    Thank you very much guys for all the tips ! I knew about the corrosion thing, I already did a batch with my cooler and it's already rusted, hence why I'm trying to improve my cooler right now before the next brewing session
     
  12. #12
    Kuhndog

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    How do you make a manifold of copper without having burrs and prevent metal flakes or dust from getting into your mash?

    What is suggested to cut the slits into the copper tubing? Then what do you do to make it clean and free of debris/dust?
     
  13. #13
    johnp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    I used a wire brush to clean the pipe of metal shards, and I opted to drill holes instead of trying to use a hacksaw to make slits. It was easy and works perfectly.
     
  14. #14
    ak-71

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 13, 2012
    I made a 3/4 washer from a 5/8 one, they are easier to find and OD is perfect for my cooler
     
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