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Blonde Ale Centennial Blonde (Simple 4% All Grain, 5 & 10 Gall)

Discussion in 'Homebrew Ale Recipes' started by BierMuncher, Oct 26, 2007.

 

  1. Tarks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 12, 2013
    I was looking for a nice, light session brew with a quick turn around to keg and this is it! Brewing this up tomorrow. I have brewed many of BM's recipes with great success. Thanks for the recipe BM! Cheers.
     
  2. dickproenneke

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    Thanks for the link Chriso. Very helpful. I'm certainly keeping several gallons of this beer on hand at all times. It's real good stuff. I guess I should have been more specific in my other comment...I did a PM version of this brew. I didn't change the hop amounts but added 3lbs of DME at 10mins. The late extract addition helped to keep the IBUs close to BM's original recipe. Beer Calculus gave me 24IBU.
     
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  3. mhurst111

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    So here is my plan for a strawberry version for this

    Same grain bill:
    Ingredients,
    7,Pale Malt - 2 row
    0.75,Cara-Pils
    0.5,Crystal - 10L
    0.5,Vienna Malt

    Mash at 154 (instead of 150) for 60 min - strawberries in the secondary will dry it out, so trying to add more malty goodness...

    I'll up the last cascade hop addition to .5 oz instead of .25 to try to keep the hop aroma
    0.25,Centennial -55min
    0.25,Centennial -35min
    0.25,Cascade -20min
    0.5, Cascade -5min ( changed from .25)
    1,Nottingham Yeast


    Ferment until FG is stable.

    Add 6lbs strawberries to a secondary ( Costco bags are 6 lbs, so that is set) for 8-14 days until a 'new' FG is stable.

    Rack to final bucket for 2 to 3 weeks, cold crash, keg and enjoy.

    Any really dumb ideas in this plan....
    Thanks,
    Mike
     
  4. sethlovex

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    I think the concencus for strawberries is 1-2 # per gal, so the ratio looks good. You could always add some strawberry extract right before kegging if the taste isn't where you want it.
    Your process looks the same as what I was thinking of doing (except the last hop addition which I think is a good idea). Maybe do a .25 oz dry hop too? Who wants to save .25 oz in the fridge?

    Assuming your primary takes 7-10 days it looks like 6 weeks until kegging. :(
    I want this to go quicker!! I wonder if the third (tertiary?) fermentation will require that long.
    i was going to keg half original recipe and bottle half (2.5 gal) strawberry.
     
  5. grv

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    Got this tee'd up to brew this weekend. Looking forward to it!
     
  6. carlk47

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    Heading to the LHBS this weekend to pickup supplies to brew this on Saturday.. Hmm.. should I get enough for one 5 gal batch or two batches?...
     
  7. Tarks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    Brewed this up today. Hit an OG of 1.041. My LHBS was out of US-05 and Nottingham so I went with Wyeast 1056. I didn't make a starter even though BS recommended I did. I figure I should be ok as this is a low gravity beer. Hopefully it all works out.
     
  8. HBrew71

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    I always use 1056 .. Fantastic every time.
     
  9. DHdriver

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    I'm looking at brewing this but I can't get 10L or Vienna locally, but have everything else on hand so shipping isn't worth it. I have some crystal 80L I'd like to use up (it's already milled), any comments if I can use a small quantity of it (about 4oz), to 'replace' the 10L and Vienna, I know it won't be the same flavour but I'm trying to work with what I have.
    What do you think?
     
  10. sethlovex

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 13, 2013
    May be a little darker, but id think it would still be good. I'd go for it. Let us know how it turns out.
     
  11. Catfish1320

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2013
    Throwing a few more of these back right now. This is a really good beer. Brewing it again Monday afternoon. This one will always be in stock.
     
  12. midfielder5

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2013
    I would use only an ounce or two myself.
     
  13. RickBrewski

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2013
    Best Beer I have ever brewed! Thanks Bier Muncher! If you on the fence on brewing this.. DONT BE.. it is an Extremely Great Beer! Did this as my first All Grain batch and brewed this again yesterday along with EdWorts Haus Ale! Two New Staples in my Kegerator!
     
  14. Euphist

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Mar 17, 2013
    I made this once before, subbing Columbus for the Centennial as that's what I had on hand and it turned out really good. :) I recently got a good price on a pound of Centennial and figured it was time to brew this one as written. My efficiency must have been pretty good... 1.046 :drunk:
     
  15. vogtenstein222

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 17, 2013
    Still a bit new to the hobby so not sure if it makes a huge difference but should I use pellets, leaf, or whole hops?
     
  16. HBrew71

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 18, 2013
    Does not matter. Make sure weigh in the different AA factor. I find pellets are the easiest to manage BTW.
     
  17. dddppp

    New Member

    Posted Mar 18, 2013
    Just took my first sip after a week in bottles. I kinda effed up this recipe (had to use Fleischmann's bread yeast instead of Notty; left it in primary for two weeks with no secondary) and still produced highly drinkable results. Based on this and what others in this thread have said, this recipe seems pretty bulletproof and an amazing value to boot. Will definitely be keeping it in my back pocket.

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  18. Spinrathen

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 18, 2013
    This one is on my horizon.
     
  19. fizgig

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 18, 2013
    I have this ordered except for the hops, I have 16oz of Simcoe and 4oz Citra, should I go all Simcoe, all Citra, or some combination? I can figure out the IBUs, but how much is too much flavor/aroma hops for this?
     
  20. idrinkstuffnthings

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 18, 2013
    Any problem using Pilsen malt instead of 2 row?
     
  21. FATC1TY

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2013
    Shouldn't be. Will be lighter and will need to be boiled for 90 min to drive off the Dms.
     
  22. Estbrew

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2013
    If i would use larger amoun of centennial to reach desired IBU level and use rest of centennial and cascade only for aroma addition at 5 min or even flame out, would it be different beer? Or even use magnum for bittering? Just wondering about these different addition times lately:)
     
  23. BillyMojo

    New Member

    Posted Mar 19, 2013
    I borrowed this recipe and made some minor changes, to apply it to BIAB.

    I've brewed 5 consecutive batches (5.5 gal finals) .. and I'm tasting the second one now.

    The first one, I didn't modify the steep time. 60 mins.

    Pretty much came out like all the comments I've read in the early stages of the thread.

    Second batch, I steeped for 90 mins. and changed to Wyeast 1056.

    BINGO.


    higher OG (1.049)

    let it sit on the yeast in the primary for 14 days (FG 1.009 on day 14, day 13, and day 12.)

    simple simple simple rack to bottling bucket on 3/4 cup table sugar boiled in 2 cups of water.

    bottled about 46~ or so 12 0z. bottles.

    let them sit for 14 days, then chilled.

    Now, I compared one side-by-side to a local Pale Ale. (Boulevard.)


    mine is more complex, full, and better flavor.

    I've got 3 more batches in various stages of primary, secondary, and bottle conditioning. This recipe is a home-run.

    final numbers overlap Pale Ales.

    Thanks, guys.
     
  24. sethlovex

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 20, 2013
    Nice work BillyMojo. I actually brewed this tonite myself, just pitched WL001 that I built up a starter for two days ago. OG was right on the money. Can't wait to keg it. The best part is I still have enough hops and specialty grains to brew another 5 gal batch. Thanks Biermuncher!
     
  25. cridden

    Member

    Posted Mar 21, 2013
    I made this a week ago and hit 1.040 as starting gravity, but after a week and a half at perfect conditions in a temp controlled freezer, ive only gotten down to 1.020. That's only 2.5 abv but I dont care if itll taste ok. Any ideas on what went wrong?
    Hydrometer sample is pretty weak.
     
  26. FlyDoctor

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Mar 21, 2013
    Did you pitch enough healthy yeast and did you oxygenate? Also high mash temps.
     
  27. cridden

    Member

    Posted Mar 21, 2013
    mashed at 154 for 60 mins, shook the sh%$ out of fermenter for 10 mins, and pitched a rehydrated Notty for 5 gallons.
    gonna try it again this weekend and see if i can spot what went wrong.
     
  28. Komocabo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 21, 2013
    I brewed this an fermentation was done after 9 days so I kegged it and force carbed it. Tried it last night after being in the keg for a few days to carb up. My first sip was kind of bland but then I got a very odd taste... sort of like old skunky beer. My wife says it tastes like Budweiser and I have to agree. I used the exact grain bill and hop schedule but used a fresh smackpack of 1056. I mashed at 152 for 60 if I remember correctly. I am wondering if mashing for 90 would make any difference. Any insight? I have a 3 keg set up and I fly sparge, if that helps
     
  29. BigRedDog

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2013
    Budweiser has the flavor of acetaldehyde, which can be perceived as sour apple (kind of like Jolly Roger candy). That off flavor is caused by fermentation issues such as low pitching rate, low oxygenation of wort, or not letting the yeast complete its process (clean up). Perhaps you pulled it off too early??? Anyway maybe it will dissipate a bit if you give it time.
     
  30. Komocabo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2013
    Yeah, I'm hoping that it will clear up a bit. If it does then I will be happy because its a cheap beer to brew... I've been trying to make a good session brew... I'll let it sit in the keg for another week and pour off another pint
     
  31. Komocabo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2013
    Update... well, something magical happened in the keg over the last few days... I couldnt help it so I poured a little... just to try... and it cleaned up really nicely! Yep, gonna brew this one again
     
  32. cpl-america

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2013
    My guess is that you didn't get good starch conversions. Maybe mashing too high. Or possibly not enough viable yeast.
     
  33. Mojzis

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 22, 2013
    If your thermometer is accurate then 154 is definitely not too high. Its probably high for this beer but it wouldn't leave you with 1.02. I suggest you test it to make sure its accurate.

    Next, like america said you probably didn't have a good viable cell count. You could have re-hydrated too high, pitched into hot wort, bad packet of yeast, etc. If it were me I would toss in some more yeast to chew that down a little. No doubt its going to be very thick and sweet.

    Goodluck.
     
  34. BierMuncher

    ...My Junk is Ugly...  

    Posted Mar 22, 2013
    What temp is it fermenting at. Might be worth getting the ambient temp up to 70 degrees to thaw out some otherwise chilly yeast.
     
  35. bikenbrew75

    Member

    Posted Mar 23, 2013
    I'm trying this out tomorrow. 10 gallons all grain. Had to adjust the grain bill a little since the LHBS ran out of Crystal 10L. So it is going to be with 14.2 oz of 10L and the rest of the pound with 20L. Shouldn't make much difference. Sounds like a good brew. Gonna use WLP002 yeast as well. I usually let brews sit way longer that a week so I'll let you know how it comes out. Ever play with adding more hops to this? Thinking of adding some Saaz at the end of the boil. Any thoughts?
     
  36. Jakeintoledo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 23, 2013
    So, I made this once, and I didn't care much for the flavor (tasted like soap--but I won't deny this could have likely been an off-flavor).

    And it seemed a little sweet to me, so I upped the hop content. This original recipe came in at about 22IBUs, but I instead cranked up the hop content, and did ALL late hopping. 0.75oz Centennial @ 25mins, 1oz @ 15min, and dry-hopped Ahtanum for three days in secondary.

    I gave this about a month to age, and it's pretty good. not hoppy, but full of character. because it's a little more complex and aged, I call it Centennial Cougar. LOL
     
  37. sethlovex

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 23, 2013
    You should make your label look like skintight jeans
     
  38. mhurst111

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 23, 2013
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    I just racked my latest version of this onto 6 lbs of strawberries. The glass on the left is the original recipe that has been in a slightly over carbonated keg for 2 weeks.The one on the right is what came out of the primary and went on the berries.

    For the strawberry blonde, I was trying to mash at 154. I wound up at 156 for 30 min and then dropped it down to 154. Definitely maltier than the original recipe.
    Only other change was to omit the first cascade addition and just do the entire .5 oz at the 5 min mark.

    OG was 1.041 and I was surprised it still finished (so far) at 1.010.

    SWMBO is really looking forward to the strawberry version. Plan is to keep it on the berries for 7-9 days then transfer again to let it settle and clear. Probably a month away.
     
  39. SwivelHips

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 23, 2013
    I think it would go great; I finish my house amber with Saaz and love it.
     
  40. bikenbrew75

    Member

    Posted Mar 24, 2013
    Ended up brewing this today instead of yesterday. Hit all my numbers and it looks good. Didn't add the Saaz though. Maybe I'll add that in the secondary. By far the lightest beer I've brewed.
     
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