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Carbonating off of more than one CO2 tank

Discussion in 'Bottling/Kegging' started by Chugmaster, Feb 13, 2013.

 

  1. #1
    Chugmaster

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    Posted Feb 13, 2013
    Has anyone ever spliced two CO2 tanks (with separate regulators) into one manifold or keg? This would effectively be accomplished by putting a tee before the keg or manifold and having both CO2 tanks flow into it at the same pressure.

    The reason why I would want to do this is to make sure that there is a constant CO2 pressure if one tank runs out.

    My understanding is that a CO2 tank is "empty" when its pressure equalizes with the pressure of the regulator (say, 12psi). If one CO2 tank becomes empty, then the second CO2 tank should theoretically maintain the required pressure in the line for carbonation/dispensing.

    My only concern is the risk of damaging the regulator if one tank is pushing out a slightly higher pressure or once one tank empties, there could be slight pressure on the regulator from the other tank.
     
  2. #2
    Fatt

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    Posted Feb 13, 2013
    The problem here is having the T before the manifold. Technically, both tanks running into the same line are connected to each other and the high pressure of one will flow both into the keg and into the empty keg. Pressure wants to equalize so it'll fill each low pressure until all tanks are of equal pressure. Make sense?
     
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    thadius856

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    Posted Feb 13, 2013
    Wouldn't check valves in the regulator prevent this?
     
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    Chugmaster

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    Posted Feb 13, 2013
    No problem with this. The low tank would empty until there remained 12psi. Then, the empty tank would be 12psi and my kegs would be too.
     
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    jimmarshall

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    Posted Feb 13, 2013
    Do regulators have check valves in them? Even if it did, if 2 bottles with different amounts of pressure are both hooked up to this setup, the fuller one will empty until pressures are the same, and you will end up with 2 empty bottles when one empties.
     
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    thadius856

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    I sure hope so. Here's my regulator: link. Says it has them.

    Here's another on the manufacturer's website that says it does: link.
     
  7. #7
    day_trippr

    We live in interesting times...

    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    "The reason why I would want to do this is to make sure that there is a constant CO2 pressure if one tank runs out."

    Ok, so now you have two tanks tied together. Then what? Sure, you can go twice as long between refills, but when one goes empty, they're both empty. So there goes the whole "constant pressure" thing until you get both tanks refilled.

    Maybe you need to tie three tanks together...

    Cheers! ;)
     
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    jimmarshall

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    Why are you so worried about your tank running out while hooked up to a keg?
     
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    kombat

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    That was my thought, too.

    You have two tanks and two regulators. Just use one until it runs out, then switch over to the other one.

    If one of my tanks ran out while it was still carbonating a batch, I'd notice within a day and switch to my other tank. All that would happen was I missed a day of carbonating. It's not like the beer would go flat during that time - it just wouldn't be getting any MORE carbonated until I switched the tanks.
     
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    Chugmaster

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    I actually got accepted to the next biodome mission and didn't want flat beer when I got out. Didn't want to brag.
     
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    zachattack

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    Like day_trippr said, the tanks will both empty at the same rate and you'll be left with 2 empty tanks.

    If you want this to work, you need a secondary regulator. Set the primaries at two different pressures (say 30 psi and 25 psi), then adjust down to your desired pressure using the secondary. The 30 psi tank will empty first, then the 25 psi tank. I do this all the time in the lab to prevent experiments from shutting down while I change a tank.
     
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    pabloj13

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    +1 on all of this. I used to have to do the same thing at work. No we have a tank switcher, which is AWESOME.
     
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    davekippen

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    Have the catsitter check on the CO2 while you are gone :)
     
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    thadius856

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    Paid or unpaid intern? ;)
     
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    Chugmaster

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    I knew that someone with a scientific backround would be able to answer this. Thanks!
     
  16. #16
    pabloj13

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    In academic research, even "paid" is a relative term.
     
  17. #17
    zachattack

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    Get the hell out of academia! I'm never going back...
     
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    jimmarshall

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    How many kegs are you carrbonating
     
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    beaksnbeer

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    Posted Feb 14, 2013
    As long as you do not have any leaks and the sitter doesn't drink your beer, I fail to understand how the kegs would lose pressure or beer?
     
  20. #20
    day_trippr

    We live in interesting times...

    Posted Feb 15, 2013
    I've been presuming this was all aimed at a carbonation system, so if the system ran out of gas the attached keg(s) would stop carbing up.

    Why this seems to be a big enough problem to need a solution escapes me, however...

    Cheers!
     
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