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Buying hop seeds

Discussion in 'Hops Growing' started by chip82, Oct 3, 2014.

 

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    chip82

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    Posted Oct 3, 2014
    Do you have any reputable suppliers of hop seeds ? By reputable , I mean someone who knows what kings of hops they are selling you.
     
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    DarkCoder

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    Posted Oct 3, 2014
    You will not have a "kind of hops" (variety, cultivar) with seeds. As to the parent lineage of the seeds, good luck. Most seller got their seeds in bulk, so they don't know... and most of the times, those seeds come from open pollination.
     
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    PapaBearJay

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    Posted Oct 3, 2014

    When you say "kinds" of hops, are you referring to variety? If so, you'll be sorely mistaken with whatever you receive. Hops do not come true-to-type like peas, soybean, or tomato.

    There are people who sell hop seed, and they are hops, but more than likely they won't tell you where they came from because they were likely collected from wild plants. Or if they do, they'll give you some b.s. story about their background. (Some stories just truly don't add up.)

    With that, some of us have purchased seed before, or harvested our own seed, or even made open-pollinated/directed crosses. If you can let us take stock of what we have at the end of the season, I'm sure we'd be happy to pass something along to you. If you're not interested in using "unknown" hops, then I recommend sourcing rhizomes or whole plants of known varieties from reputable businesses.

    If someone tries marketing "Cascade Hop Seeds 4 Sale!!!" they are outright lying to you. Cascade was one single seed, in a mix of tens of thousands of seeds in a public breeding program. If it's pollinated by a male, the seeds will grow into their own unique individuals. If it (somehow, though chances are quite low) pollinates itself, the resulting seeds will also be their own unique individuals, because that will begin the process of inbreeding.

    The only way to get a Cascade, is to receive a clone, which is through rhizomes or stem cuttings (read whole plant from clonal propagation).

    So maybe work on clarifying what you would like to do or accomplish...


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    DarkCoder

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    Posted Oct 3, 2014

    Yeah, b.s. story... if you plan to buy seeds from eBay, be carefull. There are 2-3 vendors from the US that are selling "branded hop seeds", like MtHood seeds, Willamette seeds...those cultivars are seedless, are they magician or what ?!? :)

    And if you do buy seeds online, don't buy lot that are under 50 seeds, it will be a waste of money due to the low germination rate.
     
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    barnaclebob

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    Posted Oct 3, 2014
    why do you want to buy seeds vs rhizomes?
     
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    PapaBearJay

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    Posted Oct 19, 2014

    I have the same question. Any particular reason?


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    SeeMont

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    Posted Oct 19, 2014
    Just buy the rhizomes , plant them in good rich, supply them with good water and watch them grow. After you have good plants, You can give your friends know variety hops rhizomes. If you plant multiple varieties, you need to keep their roots seperated, they like to visit. If some one close to me was going to plant male hops, I would have a conversation with them, I don't need seedy hops. For what it's worth
     
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