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Burnt adjunct/cereal mash with first wit

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by tonymark, Apr 29, 2013.

 

  1. #1
    tonymark

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 29, 2013
    Lesson learned, don't try to do a adjunct/cereal mash with a false bottom installed.

    I brewed a wit on Thursday by first doing a adjunct mash (122 F,150 F, boil) with constant stirring.
    The adjunct mash contained
    6 lb 6-row
    8 lbs wheat flour
    2 lbs oat flour
    I attempted to do it in my mash keggle with the false bottom installed... bad idea. I added my main grains (2-row, aciduated, 1 lb rice hulls) and room temp water to stabilize at 153 F for my main mash. I managed to sparge ~4 gallons with minimum problems. Then it stuck, I remixed and stuck again within 30 seconds. Added another pound of rice hulls and stuck again. I moved the entire mash to buckets, pulled out the false bottom and there it was, a big piece of burnt carbon.:(:(:(:(

    I cleaned it out, reassembled poured mash back in and continued on with no problems.

    4 days later the gravity is 1.010 (WLP400 yeast). As you can guess it tastes burnt. The wit tartness is there with a really nice flavor, but the burnt flavor is too much.

    Do I just pour out? Can I fix it?

    Would a pump have helped with this brew? I think that the mash would just clogged up at the false bottom because of the wheat flour. Maybe I should mash in my boil keggle next time and transfer to the lauter tun for sparging.

    What is the best approach for a adjunct/cereal mash?
     
  2. #2
    Pie_Man

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 30, 2013
    I think most home brewers simply boil these ingredients in a regular pot while constantly stirring and then add them to their mash. It's probably wise to use rice hulls in the mash for some insurance against a stuck sparge. If the grains stay moving, there is adequate liquid in the cereal mash, and the temperature isn't too high, you should be able to avoid scorching.
     
  3. #3
    tonymark

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 1, 2013
    Dumped it today. I tasted some as I dumped and I gagged.

    The makeup wit brew is Friday. I am going to do the adjunct mash in my boil kettle and just scoop it a bowl at a time to the main mash tun.
     
  4. #4
    tonymark

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 20, 2013
    Did a rebrew a few weeks ago and it is really incredible already. Tastes a lot like a Hoegaarden. I would have 20 gallons instead of 10 if I hadn't burned the first batch.
     
  5. #5
    mito

    Member

    Posted Nov 19, 2013
    Just a question...
    I had already use 50% wheat flour in a wit.
    I didn't go with a cereal mash but i sufferd some efficiency... (it turned out great though)
    Now i ll brew it once more but this time i will cereal mash the flour ( since i will use a medium body schedule.
    My question is:
    1. Why i should boil my cereal since gelatinazation is below mash temps? Can i just skip the boiling part?
    2. The grains i will add to cereal for the mash will contribute to main mash if i boil the cereal mash? Should i exclude them for my grain bill?
     
  6. #6
    tonymark

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Nov 26, 2013
    I don't really do the adjunct mash anymore. I do cook the wheat in a big pot. I start with room temp water, add flour and basically make a big pot of cream of wheat by bringing it to a light simmer for a few minutes. I put this in my preheated mash water and adjust appropriately. I do use 3 lbs of 6-row for the extra enzymes in the mash. I do a step mash of 122 F and 150 F. I want the wheat gelatinized before the protein/beta glucan

    I really want to experiment with this yeast with some other varieties. I really enjoy the clove flavor that I get when fermenting around 73 F.
     
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