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Discussion in 'Recipes/Ingredients' started by Couevas, Mar 15, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    If you had to choose 4 different varieties that you could brew with for the year, what would they be?

    (I am setting up a mini farm in Northern California that will consist of 2 60-foot long rows at about 18-20 feet tall apiece)
    :rockin:
     
  2. #2
    Jaybird

    Sponsor  

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    Where at in Nor*Cal?
     
  3. #3
    beesy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    Cascade
    Centennial
    Liberty
    Chinook
    (in no order)
     
  4. #4
    mkling

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    Cascade
    Willamette
    Mt. Hood or Liberty (I'd pick Mt. Hood)
    Galena or Nugget (I'd pick Galena)

    That gives you 1 classic American variety (Cascade), 1 US decendent of a UK variety (Willamette as a decendent of Fuggles), 1 US decendent of a German noble hop (Mt. Hood or Liberty both Halertau decendents), and 1 strong clean bittering hop (Galena or Nugget). This gives the abilty to brew a huge variety of types of beer. If you're interested in 1 particular style (like APAs or IPAs) then you could load up on US citrusy varieties as beesy suggests above.
     
  5. #5
    enderwig

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    Cascade
    Willamette
    Amarillo
    Summit
     
  6. #6
    RCCOLA

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    Cascade,magnum,goldings,hallertauer
     
  7. #7
    merculite

    Member

    Posted Mar 15, 2009
    Cascade, Perle, Magnum, N. Brewer
     
  8. #8
    Baja_Brewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Centennial, Magnum, Amarillo, (Cascade or Simcoe)
     
  9. #9
    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    I wouldn't waste space growing both Cascade and Centennial because they are pretty interchangeable.

    Willamette, Fuggle, Centennial and Amarillo

    Isn't Simcoe proprietary?
     
  10. #10
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    I think amarillo is also proprietary, but I'm not sure.

    I'd do:
    cascade/centennial
    williamette
    galena/warriot or nugget
    Tettnanger/hallertauer
     
  11. #11
    harley03

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Cascade, Wlliamete, East Kent Goldings, Centennial....
     
  12. #12
    Beerrific

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Hard to do unless East Kent has moved to northern California. ;)

    For me:

    Cascade
    Centennial
    Chinook
    Magnum
     
  13. #13
    mkling

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Other thing to keep in mind when making your selection is disease resistance and adaptation to your environment. My recommendations above capitalize on the increased mildew & disease resistance of some of the US varieties over Fuggles & Hallertau varieties by choosing Willamette & Mt. Hood. Also, these are varieties that are well adapted to Northern California/Oregon climate.

    Planting Cascade & Centennial do seem much too close to each other to plant both if you can only plant 4 varieties.
     
  14. #14
    SumnerH

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Saaz, Hallertauer, Styrian Goldings, Northern Brewer.
     
  15. #15
    Aspera

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Perle
    Goldings
    Willamette
    Cascade

    The Goldings may not be as thrifty or productive as the others but either it of Perle can be used to bitter 90% of all beers. Willamette and Cascade from your neck of the woods are fantastic aroma hops for all American ales.
     
  16. #16
    Baja_Brewer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    My bad, I did some googling and I found that they both are, indeed, proprietary....

    Shame, I wonder when the patents run out.
     
  17. #17
    ericd

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Cascade
    Hallertaur
    Challenger/EKG/Progress etc
    Styrian Goldings
     
  18. #18
    mmb

    "I just got a new pet toaster!"  

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Are you getting these tested for AA%? If not, I'd go with the following for aroma/flavor

    Cascade or Centennial
    Willamette
    Saaz
    Goldings

    And get a pound or two of clean bittering from Hops Direct.
     
  19. #19
    Dr_Deathweed

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    +1, but my 4 would be:

    Cascade/Centenial
    Sterling
    Willamette
    Mt. Hood
     
  20. #20
    Couevas

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    That's a good point, MMB.
    I didn't think about the fact that, without testing, I wouldn't know what the AA% was and thus the true IBU content of my recipes. If I am not going to test, it would be smart to skip the bittering hops.
     
  21. #21
    TwoHeadsBrewing

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    1. Cascade
    2. Chinook
    3. Willamette
    4. Magnum


    Oh, and do you plan on having a work-for-hops program??? JK, but I'd love to come help with the harvest if you need an extra set of hands. :mug:
     
  22. #22
    BierMuncher

    ...My Junk is Ugly...  

    Posted Mar 16, 2009
    Clean high bittering:
    Magnum

    American Bittering/Aroma:
    Centennial

    Noble:
    Hallertau

    English Ales:
    Fuggles
     
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