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Build log of a Danish brewery

Discussion in 'Brew Stands' started by Guldberg, Jan 28, 2011.

 

  1. #1
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2011
    Hi there

    I already have a thread on the brewtroller forum, but I thought that a thread here would work as well.

    We are a group of 6 people building a brewery capable of producing 60l batches. Its a single tier, 3 vessel HERMS based system. Pumps, valves and heating is controlled by brewtroller.

    First off, a P&I diagram.

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    All valves and pumps is connected with 1/2" silicone hose, so it should be pretty easy to accommondate future changes.

    A picture of the stand, to give an idea of the overall size

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    A picture of the newly welded vessels
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    Lastly a picture of a temperary setup I made to test the heating element with PID control

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    More pictures in my picasa album https://picasaweb.google.com/jacobguldberg/Brewery#
     
  2. #2
    bendavanza

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2011
    Those are some nice vessels. They are insulated? Is that floor made of end cut wood?
    I saw a house with a floor made from 4x4" end cut mesquite, it was beautiful.
     
  3. #3
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2011
    Yup, they are insulated. Paid 350$ in total for all 3, shipped. Not a bad deal. There is some minor flaws, but for that price I dont care. The insulation was a pain for the welder though.

    It is the floor of the workshop at my job. Its some 40 years old. Not very suitable for a workshop, impossible to clean, and water can pop up a large section when it dries out. Cant imagine how black the smoke would look if you burnt them
     
  4. #4
    jasonsargo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2011
    Really cool vessels. Could you provide a link for them?
     
  5. #5
    Smeller

    Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2011
    Here is a link trough google translate to the seller in Germany
    insulated vessel

    I've thought of buying them too, but I need to find a welder

    Alternately there's a version with a tap fitted
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    That could be used with this so I don't need to cut holes
    2000W Heating element
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    But I am still in the planing phase
     
  6. #6
    KCBrewer

    Fat Brad  

    Posted Jan 29, 2011
    I wish those were for sale here in the states at that price. That is a great deal. I'm planning to make the switch to electric soon and those would be perfect. I bet they'd make nice fermenters too with an airlock added to the lid.

    I saw a show on tv where they did a floor just like yours. What they did was use a sawdust mixture as grout, I think it was mixed with some type of glue, and then they put a couple coats of polyurethane over it all. It looked really good when it was done.

    The brewery is looking great, keep the pics coming!
     
  7. #7
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Jan 30, 2011
    People interested in the vessels, should contact catering-portal directly. The do business outside ebay to, so you save the ebay fee. Maybe the even ship to US. Smeller, you could consider punching holes and using bolt on fittings.
     
  8. #8
    Rivenin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 30, 2011
    wow, i'm quite impressed! looking great! (subbed)
     
  9. #9
    thantos

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jan 30, 2011
    What type of insulation is it, fiberglass or poured in poly foam, and what type minor flaws did you find?
     
  10. #10
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Jan 31, 2011
    Its poly foam moulded between the two layers.

    Just minor flaws, like leftover traces of some welding, a tiny tiny dent or stuff like that. For 80€ each, I wouldnt expect them to be perfect in every sense, but function wise, I have nothing to put on them
     
  11. #11
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Feb 2, 2011
    Did a quick boil test to test to adjust the PID and to see how the heating element performed. Got a major overshoot, couldnt figure out why, until I found out that the I-value was oposite to what I thought. Next time I will try and nail it.

    I got a good vigorous boil going. The outside stays cool due to the insulation and the insulated lid helps keeping the energy lost low when ramping up the temperature

    Sorry for the phone quality pics

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  12. #12
    anonymousbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 2, 2011
    What are the caps over the terminals on your elements? Those are A LOT cleaner looking than the box-ins ive seen on most.
     
  13. #13
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Feb 3, 2011
  14. #14
    Smeller

    Member

    Posted Feb 3, 2011
    how did you contact them outside ebay? and did you just ask for a price, cause I see people are engaging bidding wars on the kettles?
     
  15. #15
    Guldberg

    Member

    Posted Feb 6, 2011
    Catering-Portal.Bergland "at" msg.afterbuy.de , there is also a link on the very first post to some sort of shop, where you can see what they can offer
     
  16. #16
    ScubaSteve

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 6, 2011
    Very nice! The US needs to get something like this. The boilermakers are nice, but quite expensive. I have one of the old italian brew kettles, but I think they stopped selling them because of the shipping costs. Interesting to see how brewing evolves in other countries. Darwin was right!

    As far as your schematic and sculpture, you guys clearly know what you're doing....but if you're splitting the beer amongst 6 people, you're gonna have to brew frequently!
     
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