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Brewing in a HOT apartment

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by kellsean, Jul 9, 2008.

 

  1. #1
    kellsean

    Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    I'd like to start a new brew sometime in the coming days, but my un-air-conditioned apartment is very hot; around 75 degrees. I'm wondering--what is the best type of ale to brew (or maybe what is the best yeast to use) when fermenting in such a hot environment?

    Any light you all can shed on this would be greatly appreciated!
     
  2. #2
    McKBrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    Do you have any options for cooling? Something as simple as a large ice chest or rubbermaid tote with some ice blocks will do a great job keeping temperature down. If you are short on space, you could brew a Saison which ferment well in warm temperatures.
     
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    bashe

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
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    Laurel

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    I have the same cooler but a size or 2 smaller than that. The lid snaps off and my carboy fits into it. I have about 10" of water in it, and I swap out frozen bottles 1-2 times per day depending on the size of the bottle. It's about 70-75 in my apartment and I have no problem keeping the water in the cooler below 60º. I also keep a towel on top of the carboy, more to prevent it from getting sunlight(it's under a shaded window) than anything else, but I'm sure that helps too.

    It's so humid here that the t-shirt trick likely wouldn't work, but if it's not too humid in MA during the summer, you may consider putting a tight-fitting t-shirt over the carboy to wick up water.
     
  5. #5
    BADS197

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    Your lucky.. I came home to a cool 95 degrees yesterday. An hour later I managed to get it to drop 4 degrees with our substandard A/C.
     
  6. #6
    carnevoodoo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    I'd add a vote for using coolers. I have two 70 quart maxcold coolers and with a water bath at the right temp, my fermenters stay as low as I want them. In fact, it was 84 in my garage the other day and the cooler got too cold, down to 58 degrees. So they're definitely worth a look. If you drill a hole in the lid, a 6.5 gallon carboy will fit with enough room for 2 2 liter soda bottles filled with frozen water.
     
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    findthefish

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    Special Hops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    What are the inside dimensions of your maxcold 70? Do you think it would fit a Pony keg? I have just started fermenting in a Pony keg and it is a bit squatier then a carboy. I see the cooler on-line and think "that might work" but all the websites only give you outside dimensions on the cooler.
     
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    carnevoodoo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    No idea of the internal dimensions at all. Sorry. I think a pony keg might be a little too wide though.
     
  10. #10
    BADS197

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 9, 2008
    I picked up a large igloo last night at Target and plan on modding it like a few others have. I'm hoping it will hold the temps down during the day while i'm not home.
     
  11. #11
    Special Hops

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 10, 2008

    Anyway you could measure yours when you get a chance.
     
  12. #12
    BierMuncher

    ...My Junk is Ugly...  

    Posted Jul 10, 2008
    Sear Hardware....$11.00. In the automotive section.
    Cut a hole in the top.
    Fill it with a gallon of water.
    Wrap a t-shirt around the carboy (or bucket) so the t-shirt is dipped in the water.
    Turn on a fan and let evaporation do its thing.

    You should pick up about 7-10 degrees in cooling effect.
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  13. #13
    carnevoodoo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 10, 2008
    Of course, provided I remember. I am very scatterbrained and sometimes I am amazed I make it through my day. :)
     
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    carnevoodoo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 10, 2008
    this is a great way to do things as well, and I would advise looking at any rubbermaid type bin or even 40 gallon trash cans that will run you about 5 bucks. That looks nice and sturdy though.
     
  15. #15
    HoppyDaze

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    How often do you refill with water?
     
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    RBlagojevich

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    I think you should just specialize in making saison, and nothing but saison!
     
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    eschatz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    I have the same thing going on in my apartment. Biermuncher has the answer to your problem. :mug:
     
  18. #18
    beerkrump

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    Zombie thread awakens...
     
  19. #19
    BierMuncher

    ...My Junk is Ugly...  

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    I check every day and add a little as need. It is deep enough to go several days without concern.
     
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    KillerKellers

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 30, 2009
    I picked up these tubs at Smart and Final for ~5 bucks each.. I think they are the same ones that busboys use in restaurants on the carts. Low enough for good airflow, small enough to not take up too much room, and deep enough to hold water for a couple days.

    [​IMG]
     
  21. #21
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 30, 2009
    I sympathize. I was asking the same question two weeks ago. I don't have A/C - we had a heat wave last week and my newly constructed swamp cooler was pretty high maintenance during that time.

    When my ambient temperature is about 88 degrees, as it was during the heat wave, I could keep my fermenter between 64 and 72, but only if I should switch. When my ambient temp is in the low 80s to high 70s, then it's easy to sit it between 66 and 70.

    Anyway, I recently made a Dunkelweizen using Wyeast 3068 and it turned out GREAT. It sat at about 72 and had a nice, mellow banana flavor. It could have gone a few degrees higher. So I suggest a weizen, especially one where a spicy ester flavor is desired.
     
  22. #22
    mahilly

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 30, 2009
    Funny, I bought the exact same ice chest last week for the exact same purpose...had to go against my personal rule of boycotting the Evil Empire, but tough times call for tough measures.
     
  23. #23
    McBrewski

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 30, 2009
    You call 75 degrees a hot apartment? I have to keep my carboy full of beer in my bedroom with the door closed and A/C pumping all day in order to keep it 75 degrees.
     
  24. #24
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2009
    Amen to that...my thermostat read 90 during our last heat wave!
     
  25. #25
    KillerKellers

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2009
    I wish it was only 90 here...
     
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    chirs

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 1, 2009
    That will probably pay for a used fridge on CL in a few weeks...
    ;)
     
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    chirs

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 15, 2009
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    TexasSpartan

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 15, 2009
    Heh, you and me both.

    I've got the same problem, we keep our house at about 78 during the day in the summer months. Note, in Texas summer lasts from approximately February 17th to December 2nd.

    For my last two batches, I bought a 15 gallon steel bucket at Home Depot, and did the t-shirt trick. I didn't do a fan, but I would add a couple cold packs to the water every morning. I think the next batch I will do the fan though.

    I had one thought, I have a big rubbermaid trashcan that I use for outdoor work. If I stuck my carboy in the trashcan, filled it up with water so it almost completely covered the carboy, and then added the occasional coldpack; would that work?
     
  29. #29
    humann_brewing

    More Humann than human  

    Posted Jul 15, 2009
    :confused: where do you live that 75* is very hot in your apartment.
     
  30. #30
    McBrewski

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2009
    So to anyone that uses the 70 qt. cooler from Wal-Mart: Can you fit two 5-gallon carboys in there?
     
  31. #31
    MasterShake

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2009
    do what I am going to do and brew a Saison :)
     
  32. #32
    StrangeDog

    Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2009
    I love coming onto this forum and seeing the exact question I was going to ask already answered with several great options. I think I'm off to check on the drip pan right after this...
     
  33. #33
    I-Hop

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2009
    I had the same problem earlier this year. I posted the question here and I got lots of awesome responses. What I came away with was a large cooler (looks like a giant sand pail with rope handles). I put my fermenter in the cooler and filled the cooler with water to just below the level of beer inside the fermenter. Each day, I swap out frozen water bottles in the water. I put stick on temperature strips on the cooler and it has been working great so far. Good luck with your brewing.
     
  34. #34
    pretzelb

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2009
    Stupid question - when you take the temp readings are you going on the water in the outside container? That would be easiest since you don't have to dip into the carboy, but wouldn't the beer be warmer than that? Or is it just close enough to get an idea of the temp?

    I have a cooler that might work but I haven't tried this trick yet. I think it might help.
     
  35. #35
    kyleobie

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2009
    I got the same idea from another poster here. The water temp and the internal temp have been the same for me. However, I've read from others you can't trust the water's reading while your batch is in the throws of fermentation. I'd be interested to hear what some others think about that.
     
  36. #36
    Hang Glider

    Beer Drinker  

    Posted Aug 18, 2009
    Water is a great thermal engine. Air chambers (fridge) must be 60-ish for the beer to maintain 67-68, but immersed in a tub of water, the temp of the beer is very close. If you put a $20 pond pump in the bottom to keep it all moving about, they'd probably be within half a degree.
     
  37. #37
    pretzelb

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2009
    As long as it's close I'm happy with the temp readings outside. I need to try this for my next batch and see if I can finally get something decent.
     
  38. #38
    Erythro73

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2009
    Do as I'm doing right now...

    Build a Son of a Fermentation Chiller (search these forums and google). Not too hard to do (I have a good friend to help me... he's a great handyman).
     
  39. #39
    McBrewski

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2009
    I just took the temperature of my grav-reading sample to see if the temp of the beer was similar to the water surrounding it. Turns out the water is a good 10 degrees lower in temp, however, the wort is probably just warmer cause I can't change out frozen water bottles while I'm sleeping and thus causes the beer to warm up a bit.
     
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