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American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

Discussion in 'Homebrew Ale Recipes' started by EdWort, Jun 14, 2007.

 

  1. EdWort

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    Posted Jun 20, 2009
    Don't waste that yeast on this beer. WLP300 is a Bavarian Hefeweizen yeast, so use it with my Bavarian Hefeweizen recipe.
     
  2. Shwagger

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 20, 2009
    I made 2 starters cuz one was thought to be dead. i am using one to make a hefe (not yours, sorry, next time fo sho) and I was gonna make this as a quick turn. I dont want to make 2 hefes or waste the yeast
     
  3. Danger44

    New Member

    Posted Jun 22, 2009
    Hi I am attempting the mini mash recipe as my first brew.

    I am confused at this step:

    >>Add additional water, extract, and hops to the brew pot and proceed like usual.>>

    How much add'l water do I add? And confused to what the add'l extract is...

    thanks for your help.
     
  4. Thumper

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 22, 2009
    1. Additonal water to make it to your boil volume. (final batch volume+boil off amount)
    2. Additional extract to make up the difference from the amount of fermentable sugars you got from the mini mash and the required amount of fermentable sugars you need. You are only getting partial amount of fermentables from the grain, you make up the rest with extract.
     
  5. Stevorino

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 22, 2009
    Brewed 10 gallons of this sucker this weekend -- it came out right at 1.051 -- maybe my best brew yet.

    I pitched a Starter of WLP001 into one 5.5 gallon carboy and a properly rehydrated Danstar Nottingham yeast into the other 5.5 gallon carboy.

    The Nottingham went absolutely nuts, I mean - NUTS. If I didn't have my blowoff tube installed, it would've been a gusher. WLP001 is doing really well too, very healthy fermenation.

    I'll post my post-fermentation recap after I get these things fermented out, conditioned, and kegged.
     
  6. onelegout

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 23, 2009
    Heya,
    I've got this in primary and on the 4th day it finished out at 1.011 - it has sat at 1.011 and now on the 6th day I decided to rack to secondary, but first I tasted a sample and I'm getting a strong diacetyl taste off it and not much hop aroma. Is this normal? I used nottingham yeast exactly to the recipe - there's still quite a bit of yeast in suspension and it's still very cloudy - could this diacetyl taste be from the yeast and not from the beer its self?

    Should I:
    A) Leave in primary until the taste goes away
    B) Rack to secondary and add gelatine finings and leave for 2 weeks to clear before kegging
    C) Rack to secondary, add gelatine finings, and crash cool then keg as soon as it's clear?

    Thanks
    H
     
  7. Stevorino

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 23, 2009
    I'm seeing the same damn thing from my nottingham -- I'm letting it sit on primary a couple more weeks (for a total amount of time in primary of 3 weeks). The WLP001 batch sitting next to it is looking crystal clear in comparison.
     
  8. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 24, 2009
    I want to put mine into the secondary in the next day or so. that will be either 9 or 10 days, depending on when I do it.

    How long should I do in the seconadary before I bottle?
     
  9. onelegout

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 24, 2009
    Took a sample today, it's down to 1.008, and the diacetyl taste has faded dramatically - it still smells like butter, but much less than before, so I'm going to leave it for another 3 days in primary before racking to secondary, crash cooling, and adding gelatine.
     
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  10. Stevorino

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 24, 2009
    If I'm not mistaken, Butter = DMS. The yeast will clean a lot of that up, but maybe not all of it.
     
  11. flyangler18

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 24, 2009
    diacetyl = butter
    DMS = creamed corn or similar cooked vegetable aroma
     
  12. MN_Jay

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 24, 2009
    The biggest problem I have with this recipe is I can't leave the damn tapper alone. I'm soon going to bring all my picnic tappers to work and leave them there so I don't drink at the beer at night...;)
     
  13. Stevorino

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 24, 2009
    That's right -- I always get that confused, My Bad
     
  14. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 25, 2009
    $22.00 for a batch of this. I added 1/2 pound of Crystal and went with 80L instead as well. I am hopping for a little bit darker/redder beer.

    The hops I got are also higher in BU's as well. Which is fine by me....:)

    I am transfering the first batch to secondary today. Can't wait to taste a sample :D
     
  15. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    Flat, warm and ten days old. YUMMY!!
     
  16. Boerderij_Kabouter

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    Two growlers of Haus Pale Ale in the work fridge and ready to be shared at an exclusive sausage tasting and Usinger's sausage factory this afternoon. Should be awesome!
     
  17. MikeG

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    BMW has it for $19 w/o any changes, it's definitely an economical recipe. $3 more isn't bad at all for the changes. I prefer hoppier beers, mine still has another 8 or 9 days left to bottle condition to make a judgment call on it but tasted pretty good when I racked it to my bottling bucket.
     
  18. RC0032

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    I mashed too low and the FG was 1.008 anything I can do to get some body back in my beer?
     
  19. Beau815

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    Sausage tasting huh?
     
  20. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    Sausage Party...Sausage Fest...Sausage Sharing....Sausage Demonstration....Sausage on Parade....

    What, with BCB Haus Ale, it's got to be good, whatever they do with the sausage. :cross:
     
  21. philrose

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    Oh yeah!
     
  22. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    Add in the gas it takes for me to drive south 25 minutes (IF traffic is good) and I'm paying a bit more. But I like being able to shoot the poop with the folks at the store. Pretty excited about this recipe.:)
     
  23. Pangea

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    What do you guys think about throwing in 1/2oz whole cascade into the primary after fermentation is complete and dry hopping for a week before racking to a keg?

    My Edwort's Haus Pale is ready... just looking for the go/no-go.
     
  24. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 26, 2009
    If you want more hoppiness, then by all means.
     
  25. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Looks like I'll be doing this again tomorrow. My hops are 8.7 IBU.

    So, for more bitter, I add more towards the start of the boil. to add more aroma (and somehow more bitter because taste is mostly smell) I add towards the end.

    when should I add the hops for a hoppier beer while still using the two ounces of good green stuff I have?
     
  26. RedOctober

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Ed, sorry to bother you but do you always batch sparge this? tomorrow I want to fly sparge it, 10 gallon batch (12.5 to 13 in keggle).

    Is this ok?

    * Heat 1.25 quarts of water per pound (21lbs) of grain to 170 degrees.
    * Add hot water to mash vessel along with your thermometer.
    * Mix in crushed grains when water temperature reaches 168°F. Stir until no large, dry clumps remain.
    * Check temperature after about 5 minutes. Ideal temperature is 154°F. Adjust temperature if cooler than 145°F or warmer than 158°F.
    * Cover mash and leave undisturbed for one hour.
    * Fill to top of 10gal rubbermail 180 degree mashout, stir and let rest 10 minutes.
    * Vorluof (excuse spelling)
    * Heat sparge water to about 180 degrees F.
    * sparge at 1 quart per 90 seconds.
    * Collect 12.5 gallons of wort in your brew kettle.

    Does this sound right? Can anyone check my numbers or suggest anything that will help improve my first AG, and first 10Gal batch?

    Thanks
     
  27. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Yep, I always batch sparge. It works great for me.
     
  28. RedOctober

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Ed I am going to move (copy & Paste) this over to the AG section, hopefully i can get some imput before tomorrow morning.

    Thanks
     
  29. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Yep, the fly spargers will chime in for you.
     
  30. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    well? how come no one replies to me in this thread? Do I smell or look funny?:eek:
     
  31. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Your question is not clear. Do you mean your hops are 8.7% AA?

    Do you want more hoppy bitterness, flavor or aroma, or all of them?
     
  32. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    Sorry, it was clear to me...:D

    I guess I want all of them? I want this batch, if possible to be a little more aimed towards the non-bmc drinkers.

    I thought if the AA(sorry, thought it was IBU?, they say "8.7" on the package) was higher then your suggested recipe, I may be able to achive this.?

    thanks.
     
  33. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    If you only have two ounces, stick with the hop schedule and it will be fine.
     
  34. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 27, 2009
    thanks. Heating water now...:)
     
  35. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 28, 2009
    How long does this Notingham yeast take to fire off? I pitched it directly into my primary and the wort was at 80. The package said to start the yeast in water that was 88-93 or so. Should I have followed this step?

    Right now the wort is at 74.
     
  36. Memorex88

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 28, 2009
    My last batch using notty it took 5 days to start showing airlock movement.
    I since have switched to Safale 05 which started within 12 hours. I repitched twice over the yeast cake and all 3 batches were excellent!
    I believe I will do this again but will still use the 05.

    I've heard complains about the Notty in the new packaging having a slow start and a sluggish fermentation.
     
  37. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 28, 2009
    You should be fine. RDWHAHB. By morning it will be going full force.
     
  38. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 28, 2009
    :D it was morning when I asked that question. It's still not going.. I suspect it may be going a tad bit, just because it smells like yeast in the closet,but I see no activity in my blow off tube....

    I'm relaxed, just curious.:)

    oh, I made bread w/ the spent grains. SOOOO GOOOOD.
     
  39. EdWort

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    Your blowoff tube might be leaking. If it's a carboy you should see some action if there is any.
     
  40. pnj

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 29, 2009
    ACTION! wow,that took awhile....
     
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