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Avery homebrew recipes

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by moti_mo, Aug 17, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    moti_mo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2012
    I searched the forum to see if someone else had posted about this, but didn't come up with anything (which surprised me).

    A few days ago, Avery Brewing Company posted homebrew recipes for 14 of their excellent beers on their website:

    http://averybrewing.com/brewery/recipes-for-homebrewers/

    For those who like to clone, it doesn't get much better than that. The list has some great beers on there - Maharaja, Salvation, Czar,...

    Enjoy
     
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  2. #2
    ReverseApacheMaster

    Banned

    Posted Aug 17, 2012
    They have always been generous with the recipes in the past but that is beyond generous.
     
  3. #3
    moti_mo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2012
    Yeah, they are always really open and forthcoming, but I was quite impressed with this release.
     
  4. #4
    pm5k00

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 17, 2012
    Very cool, just downloaded the page to keep a backup safe offline.
     
  5. #5
    Subsailor

    Life is Tough, Stupid makes it Tougher

    Posted Aug 17, 2012
    That's cool! Thank you Avery brewing!
     
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    phoenixs4r

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Neat
     
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    smata67

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Thanks for posting. I do think their hops quantities are off on some of the recipes (IPA .25oz bittering?), easy enough to correct though if you have beersmith or similar.
     
  8. #8
    Revvy

    Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc  

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Too Cool!!!!! Thanks for posting this!
     
  9. #9
    aware

    aware6

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Awesome, thank you.
     
  10. #10
    smata67

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Not only can you make their brews, you can slap the graphics on that page into Word and print up some nice labels.
     
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    Nightshade

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Thank you for the post, copied to notepad for future homebrews
     
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    fenners

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Way to go, Avery! Succinct, homebrewer focused recipes. I shall be trying.
     
  13. #13
    moti_mo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    That is a good point, I didn't look at those numbers in great detail at first, but some of those bittering additions do seem a bit low. Quickly plugging their recipe numbers for the IPA into Beer Calculus, I get about 25 IBU, whereas their website stats for the same beer puts it at 69 IBU:

    http://averybrewing.com/our-ales/india-pale-ale/

    Not sure what that's all about. It's probably a good idea to throw the numbers into a program to make sure you get the desired bitterness. Anyway, you can cross reference the stats listed on their individual beer descriptions to make sure you get close to the right bitterness level with (most importantly) the right hop schedule (in terms of percentages at given times), as provided by the recipe.
     
  14. #14
    smata67

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    They clearly used a wrong conversion factor. Keep proportions between the different additions the same. For example, the Ellies should have .75 Bullion and 1.75 Sterling. Works out to the proper IBU. I sent them an email alerting them to fix that before someone makes a lame batch.
     
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    fenners

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Has anyone knocked up some beersmith recipes for these yet with the right ratios?
     
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    MisterTipsy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    So will you buy more Avery beer or less now that you can make it for a fraction of the cost ?
     
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    fenners

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    I'll continue to buy Maharajah as there's no way I'm hitting that OG with my current equipment setup :)
     
  18. #18
    FarmerTed

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Holy Crap, Joe's pilsner has a ton of flameout hops. I love that beer.
     
  19. #19
    ktblunden

    Senior Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    The 60 and 30 minute CTZ additions for the Maharaja recipe should each be 1.77 oz at the same listed bitterness to hit the 102 IBU they claim using Tinseth. And yeah, that recipe outstrips the capacity of my 10 gal round cooler, so it'll be quite some time before I make that one.
     
  20. #20
    jholen

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    Awesome! Thanks for posting this.

    The aroma on their IPA is beyond amazing!
     
  21. #21
    looneybomber

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    I will still buy it. I know my homebrew wont taste the same, so I will drink the original and the knock-off.

    *edit* checking out the website, the Czar has some differences.

    Beer Style: Imperial Stout
    Hop Variety: Magnum, Sterling
    Malt Variety: Two-row barley, Oats, Cara-45, Black malt, Belgian Chocolate malt, Midnight wheat, Honey malt
    OG: 1.104 ABV: 10-12% IBUs: 55 Color: Black

    Ingredients list:
    OG: 1.104, AE: 1.025
    Grist:
    Pale 2-Row – 86.8%
    Cara-8 – 1.9%
    Cara-45 – 3.7%
    Debittered Black Malt – 1.2%
    Chocolate – 1.2%
    Carafa III – 1.5%
    Honey Malt – 3.7%
    Hops:
    60 min – Magnum (13.6% AA) – 0.94 oz
    30 min – Magnum (13.4% AA) – 0.89 oz
    0 min – Sterling – 0.52 oz
    0 min – Hallertau– 0.52 oz
     
  22. #22
    hogwash

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    They must have scaled their big batch recipes linearly, thus the low hops amounts. The bigger the batch, the less you need to hit the IBUs, correct?
     
  23. #23
    MisterTipsy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 18, 2012
    The recipe errors are all part of Avery's master plan to lower your confidence as a clone brewer.
     
  24. #24
    smata67

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Interns...
     
  25. #25
    moti_mo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Was at their taproom today for lunch after a hike in Boulder. Had the Eremita IV blueberry/spruce sour, their 3Point5 Session, and the Summer's Day Tangerine IPA. All delicious.
     
  26. #26
    FarmerTed

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    I'm kind of amazed by the grain bill for Czar. There's no roasted barley, and only 3.9% of the bill is roasted malts. I had a bottle last winter and wasn't a big fan. It wasn't very dark for an imperial stout (you could see through it when you tilted the glass), and it wasn't particularly roasty. As I recall, it had more dark fruit flavors to it. Now, I can understand why. It's really not a typical RIS grain-bill.

    As far as Maharaja goes, in the cybi interview, Adam Avery said that they used some malt extract in the grain bill to make the mash more reasonable. If I were brewing that beer, I'd use the cybi recipe; it should be easier. The hop amounts should be more accurate as well.
     
  27. #27
    octo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    9oz of dry hops for maharaja!?
     
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    FarmerTed

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    I think that's how much Tasty used when he brewed it; it was 8 or 9 per 5 gallons.
     
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    BrewHobby1

    Lifetime Member  

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Thanks for the link. I love there beer, The Reverend. Gonna give it a try.
     
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    thedude00

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Thanks....
     
  31. #31
    jonmohno

    Banned

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Nice! Thanks for the headsup. I know what I may be brewing once I start back up. It really goes to show what hops I like in alot of my favorate beers. I guess I havent even brewed with my favorate hops yet.:eek: Havent had a chance to brew with Columbus and many of my top 10-20 favorite ipa's use columbus Ive noticed.
     
  32. #32
    Daver77

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Great post, I love their beers. I think out of bounds is one of my favorite stouts.
     
  33. #33
    smata67

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 19, 2012
    Interesting how so many of the recipes use Bullion and Sterling. Bullion is hard to find at the moment, I just ordered some off Ebay of all places.
     
  34. #34
    skibb

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    Regarding the bittering...I highly doubt they would give wrong hop amounts/additions. Most commercial breweries do whirlpool additions, as does Avery (check out the CYBI maharaja episode), which would be at 0 minutes in the boil. Since the wort isn't being cooled during the whirlpool the alpha-acids are still being isomerized and are still contributing to bitterness. If it's easier for you, take their 0 additions and plug them in as 15 minutes (to adjust for the 15 minute whirlpool) and you will see the IBUs on the given IPA recipe match up closer to the stats on their website. Hope this helps.
     
  35. #35
    Xpertskir

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    For those of you brewing these and looking for bullion, just saw this great deal

    http://www.hopsshack.com/store/pellethops.html
     
  36. #36
    ChillWill

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    Bingo. If they have a hopback as well that adds a whole lot of IBU's.
     
  37. #37
    Buckwheat2

    Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    Ok I will try this post again. Yes I am a rookie. Does the grain bill for the Avery clones assume a total weight of 16 lbs when figuring the percentages.
     
  38. #38
    GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    No. The percentages assume no weight at all since batches of grain vary.

    If 16 pounds is what you get when you combine the percentages with corrected grain data and you estimate the same OG for the recipe, then 16 pounds it is.
     
  39. #39
    Buckwheat2

    Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    Got it...Thank You
     
  40. #40
    ktblunden

    Senior Member

    Posted Aug 20, 2012
    It also depends on your particular efficiency. A system with an efficiency of 80% is going to require less grain than a system that only gets 65%, but the grain ratios will be the same.
     
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