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Anyone hack their Linksys or other router?

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by 98EXL, Jul 18, 2008.

 

  1. #1
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    Just curious. I've been diddling around with DD-WRT, and now I have 2 more routers, a better Linksys and a Buffalo that I'm told I need to hackup, buff up my Linux usage because we are essentially building a wardriving machine, eventhough it won't leave the house. Hacking a LInksys WRT54GS/L with a SD card (maybe small web or ftp server) and GPS puck (for getting time, duh) just for the hell of it. I'm thinking about trying our OpenWRT because it appears you can install packages on it with the SD/MMC card mod to it.

    Just wondering if anyone else is tinkering with stuff like this or I'm just a crackpot.:tank:

    *edit* and for those wondering, I have FIOS, and totally bypassed their craptastic ActionSuc router with the teeny, tiny mac table
     
  2. #2
    blacklab

    Banned

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    Good gawd. This forum is mostly for English speakers, yah?

    But, now I'm curious. What is a wardriving machine?
     
  3. #3
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    That's enough outta yous! ;)

    Basically wardriving is when you drive around looking for open access points because people are dumb. Period. They log where it is, and then sometimes share that location with others.

    So, you can build yourself a hacked up (but looks stock) Linksys router that plugs into your cig lighter in your car that when you drive around, constantly scans for access points, and logs their GPS location so you can come back later. Then import into google maps, and presto, free interwebs whenever you need to check HBT on your PSP or laptop or whatever.

    However, I'm probably not going to do that because I want to harness the power of this little toy in the house.

    Wardriving is pretty fun so they say, I've never been on it, but want to for the hell of it
     
  4. #4
    blacklab

    Banned

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    Huh, interesting. I'm assuming you can only scam bandwidth from the suckers who don't use WEP encryption?
     
  5. #5
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    yes and no, and that's all I'm going to say

    However, as long as you can get into the router, you could turn it off...but that's just wrong *looks over shoulder*
     
  6. #6
    MattMann

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I am on the road 6 days a week, for work, and I do "wardriving" all the time. I even have a aircard, but a open wrt54g is still faster, and there is millions of them all up and down the road. It's not illegal as long as it's not encrypted, it's like "free beer" When it's there it's yours for the taking.......
     
  7. #7
    AnonyBrew

    Who rated my beer?  

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I think olllllo hacked his to get the NHC live feed going.
     
  8. #8
    mysteryberto

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I use DD-WRT on my buffalo router because it gives you tons of features that the normal firmware doesn't. QOS is very nice as is being able to increase your transmit strength.
     
  9. #9
    MattMann

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    192.168.1.1
    admin
    admin
    or
    admin
    "blank"
     
  10. #10
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    i have hacked a few of my friends and my routers and access points but nothing as elaborate. i just did it for the power boost and for my friends to give flexibility to check thier kids surf habits.
     
  11. #11
    olllllo

    []-O-[]  

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    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    or
    blank
    admin

    there is also a website that has a list of default uid passwords google default user id password
     
  13. #13
    blacklab

    Banned

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    That's kind of a bummer because I was feeling rather secure with my password and all. Anything else I can do to protect my bandwidth / computers? We work from home a bunch and the computers are usually on, so I guess if someone could get onto our network they could mess with our computers.
     
  14. #14
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    turn off sid broadcasting
    use the router to prevent other computers access by allowing the mac address's. set static ip's and only allow them. use a hard password such as something like this

    &u1G#4bW
     
  15. #15
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    yup, olllllllllllllllllllllllllllo and pen15 (I had to say it) are right.

    I'm getting ready to put DD-WRT on a WRT54G version 2...I have a craptastic one (v5) that I wanna see if there is any difference because on the v5 one I can only run microDD-WRT.

    Oh, and I'm drinking out of a champagne bottle filled with over a year aged Apfelwein, holy hell it's good
     
  16. #16
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    wow, that was freaking easy as hell! Test 1 confirmed, v2 way easier to do than v5, holy smokes
     
  17. #17
    BlindLemonLars

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I once installed an entire Asterisk telephone exchange on a Linksys router. It was fully functional, but the lack of memory and horsepower limited it to pretty basic features. Still, a cool hack. Not my hack, mind you...I'm just a dumb brewer. ;)

    I run Alchemy firmware on my Linksys at home, and Tomato on the Buffalo routers I use at work. Both are outstanding, a huge leap in functionality over the stock firmware.
     
  18. #18
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    hmmm, I've heard of tomato....and I have a Buffalo to hack as well. I may have to look into that...hell, I'm just glad I finally got off my lazy ass and installed firefox on this machine, I can tell when I misspell words now. However I'm not liking whatever happened to my google.com/ig homepage and FF3 is [not yet] my cup of tea...

    Oh well, life goes on
     
  19. #19
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    hehe i have astrisk on my sme server right now. got it working with my phoneline and my tilt for sip. now i can make a call from anywhere and originate from my house. i have i softphone at work as well so i can make and take calls from there. what can i say im a geek.

    haha its all about the pen15 i have had the nick for a very long time so used to it by now. and yes the last one i did was a v5 and it was slick. need to do my new router though since i cant find a reasonable card for my real cisco router.
     
  20. #20
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    oh dont forget to load opendns to your dns field

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

    forgot i am not using my sme server as my gateway any longer and well sbc has apperently not been able to look up this site and a couple others. fought it and remembered i dont have my dns built right. youll thank me later when you never have a problem with connecting ;-)
     
  21. #21
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I just ditched the v5...not enough memory for my liking, and v2 seems to run a bit better, but I need to run it for a week or so.

    I need to see what this astrisk is...sounds fun

    I'm using verizon's DNS right now, and so far *knocks on wood* I haven't had any problems. Worse case scenario is I'll use my web server's DNS, it's bitching and has a history of 'borrowing' an old school [for me] DNS server's entries which are updated every 2 hours or so.

    Next thing on my list is to either a) break into a XP box with no admin PW and get admin rights on it or b) put some flavor of Linux on it. Only problems are the fact that a) it has no floppy and b) it has no CD-ROM. However, it does boot from a USB device so hello CF cards.
     
  22. #22
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    oh and a plus note, DD-WRT uses my no-ip.com account so I have DDNS setup so I can get in to my network when I start forwarding ports.

    Did you know they have *.servebeer.com? It's pretty cool
     
  23. #23
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008

    yea back when i first learned of no-ip i had a servebeer domain but had nothing to do with it. this was back in like 99 i think. come to think of it that just might be what i do is put up a servebeer domain on the sme server. thx.
     
  24. #24
    nealf

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I was planning on hacking mine to make it a basic WAP because I am going to build a hardware firewall when I can find someone to give me a spare NIC or two.

    IPCOP or Smoothwall are my soon to be firewall OSes; anyone have any experience with either of them?

    ... It might be a feature of the linksys router I never really pay attention to it but I would rather just hack it for more functionality at any rate.
     
  25. #25
    blacklab

    Banned

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    I use static IP's for our computers and my Iphone, and have a funkadelic password, not the stock one.

    Am I good? Or is 98exl going to roll by later and fill my work computer with copies of 2 girls 1 cup?
     
  26. #26
    JVD_X

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    That's totally untrue (except for coffee houses and such of course) - it would be like someone using my car just because it was unlocked.
     
  27. #27
    k1v1116

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    Ive thought about doing this with an old linksys but decided instead to take an old dell desktop and install a linux firewall, router, wireless access point, file server, print server, etc...
    If you've got an old pc kicking around and just want a good router for home use installing a firewall linux distro like clarkconnect is a good way to make a cheap/free router and make use of an otherwise unusable pc.
    The only hurdle to overcome is setting up the wireless, finding a wireless card(s) that work well with linux is a pain in the ass, and setting up the software side isnt any easier. but you'll be able to make a very full featured router with out the memory/software limitations of using a linksys router that wasnt really designed to run linux.
     
  28. #28
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    You can get NIC's on eBay for a couple of dollars, and I used Smoothwall, but converted to DD-WRT because of less power and equipment

    Very good, you is not stupid. I doubt I'll head over to your coast anytime soon, but if I find your house, you are definitely getting mad copies of 2 girls 1 cup, tubgirl, and goatse man...you don't have kids running around, do you?

    but they do run Linux though, or VxWorks
     
  29. #29
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    if your looking at building a firewall in a pc consider running sme from contribs.org it rox and has great community support. it does more then just firewall. i have been running sme for about 9 years now and havent had a lick of trouble. add 2 drives to ensure you have raid. the bigger the drives better since you can use it as a nas as well.

    my sme server does the following

    router
    firewall
    astrisk
    ftp server
    http server
    video server
    nas
    music server
    proxy
    ssh tunneling for those times i need to surf undetected at work
     
  30. #30
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    well there is always ways to gain access but usualy hard password will deture most from hopping aboard the blacklab for a free ride. if you set the ips static and then limit the amount of nics allowed and only allow by nic your good. there are some fun things you can do though such as mess with people. want to rickroll people who like to hop aboard? thats easily done i can find ya some links. and um watch out dont try to goatse anyone.
     
  31. #31
    pen25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    its still open to debate. courts have ruled in favor of defendants and against for those using open access points. but who wants to find out? i dont want to be arrested like the guy in round rock for using the open access point to the citys network for looking up an address and getting directions.
     
  32. #32
    zoebisch01

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    The way I see it is, most folks are way too undereducated on the subject to be setting up a network...ESPECIALLY a wireless network. But then again, the companies have helped to fill those gaps.
     
  33. #33
    k1v1116

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    legal stuff aside, "wireless security" is an oxymoron. if you want security use a wired network only.
     
  34. #34
    98EXL

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 18, 2008
    yes, absolutely. One of my biggest pet peeves is they come out of the box ready to go...I wish you had to 'set it up,' changing password at least before it works.

    that's true, but you can still setup wireless to be totally separate from your wired network...just that most have no clue as to how to do that...basically my wireless is as good as it's gonna get, except if you gain physical access, but that's like anything
     
  35. #35
    Kevin Dean

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 19, 2008
    Firstly, if the law matters to ya, it's legal. 2.4 ghz is so-called "public property" and it's a range that most standards-based wifi routers operate at. When you broadcast on this frequency, you're broadcasting publicly, just like when you use cell phones or a cordless phone. It is PERFECTLY legal for someone to utilize an unsecured network on the public spectrum. That said, you don't actually have to break the law to be arrested, you have to break the law to be convicted so it might land you in jail with the wrong police.

    Keep that in mind when you set up a wireless AP - the court people have ruled that child porn and music downloads are the responsibility of the account holder, not the downloader.

    I won't speak the the ethics of wardriving OR the court people's rulings, but that's the way the legal people have ruled, since they're by-and-large techo-illiterate.

    That said... I know another guy who would respond to techy threads and uses that same avatar on other forums. You a Porc, or is that just a bizarre coincidence?
     
  36. #36
    Laughing_Gnome_Invisible

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 19, 2008
    I havn't understood a word of all this thread, but I sense somehow that I should be very depressed about my security. :(
     
  37. #37
    Kevin Dean

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 19, 2008
    In short, 98EXL installed new programs on his router and he likes it. Wireless networks broadcast publicly, so when you can access your router without a password, so can your neighbor.

    That said, MOST internet providers ship wireless routers with encryption (an added security measure) by default.
     
  38. #38
    Jonnio

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 20, 2008
    Better be careful with that assumption. It is quite illegal in certain states/counties and people get arrested for it on occasion.
     
  39. #39
    Jonnio

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 20, 2008
    There are actually new laws popping up nailing people for using the network...The radio transmissions aren't the issue, its what happens after they hit the router. And your wrong in one respect. You don't have to break the law to be convicted either. You can get hosed over by a computer illiterate judge/jury and still end up in deep crap. If I get some time later I will find the cases that I have seen of actual convictions for using open APs
     
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    Jonnio

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jul 20, 2008
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