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AHS Pliny vs. the real thing

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by jkarp, Oct 11, 2009.

 

  1. #41
    shecky

    Just an old guy  

    Posted Dec 4, 2009
    Drink it as soon as it's ready. I'm about to kick my keg and the aroma is definitely lessening quite a bit. The bite remains, however.
     
  2. #42
    Apollofrost

    Active Member

    Posted Dec 6, 2009
    Oh wow, I never knew russian river brewing company distributed their product so widely.

    I always thought they were just a local watering hole with awesome pizza.
     
  3. #43
    jkarp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 6, 2009
    Just a local watering hole that makes 8 of the top 100 beers in the world.
     
  4. #44
    chefmike

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 6, 2009
    By the list all those top 100 beers average 8 or 9%...:drunk:

    but I guess that is a whole other thread!
     
  5. #45
    jkarp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    Took me a while to get to it, but I tapped my 2nd batch of AHS Pliny tonight. I mashed this one a good bit hotter and man, what a difference. Not too dry like the last one, this one's perfect. Even with a couple months aging, it's still a massive hop bomb too. Superb recipe.
     
  6. #46
    Newbeerguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    You mashed this one at 156 right? My kit is comming Monday :D. I was going to mash at 152, but you say 156 is the magic number? What was your FG? Also which yeast did you use?
     
  7. #47
    jkarp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    FG was 1.012, mashed at 156. S-05 yeast. Actually I poured the 2nd batch right on top of the 1st batches yeast cake.
     
  8. #48
    Newbeerguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    Ah Ok. I ended up getting the WLP001 Yeast. I guess I will find out how far it will go with higher mash temps. I know I've gotten the WLP001 down low when I mash at 149-150. I think I gotten a blonde ale from 1.036 to 1.004. So mashing a little higher will be good for this one I think. I cannot get ahold of the real PTE, so I am flying blind on this one.
     
  9. #49
    jkarp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    S-05 is the dry version of 001 so you should get similar attenuation, assuming a good pitch rate.
     
  10. #50
    Newbeerguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    Perfect! Yeah I am going to get a 2000ml starter going. I think that should be plenty. Now if there was only a way to sample the real thing to see how close I got.
     
  11. #51
    jkarp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    PM me when it's ready. I've always got at least a dozen Pliny in the beer fridge. Maybe we could work a swap. I'd love me some HopSlam :)
     
  12. #52
    Newbeerguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 23, 2010
    I think I will have to take you up on that. I will PM you when that time comes. :mug:
     
  13. #53
    rdarr40

    Active Member

    Posted Jan 27, 2010
    If I am reading the AHS recipe correctly, some of the hops are used in the mash.
    Correct?

    Also, how long have others dry hopped?
    Do you recommend putting the hops directly in the beer or using a hop bag?
     
  14. #54
    Lynux

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 28, 2010
    If you keg I would recommend saving some of the dry hops for the keg. This helps keep the aroma around much longer.

    1.5oz of Chinook go in the mash. I dryhopped in the primary with four ounces, no hop bag for 14 days. Then I took 3oz and put them in a sanitized mesh bag and into the keg prior to racking.

    If you bottle I would recommend dry hopping in stages as opposed to all at once.
     
  15. #55
    HarkinBanks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jan 29, 2010
    I just bottled this bad boy last night and man it was sweet right out of the fermenter. Color was spot on, huge and grapefruity. I did single-stage fermentation in my 6 gal carboy for the first time and was very pleased. I fermented for 14 days at 65-68 and dry hopped the entire amount right in the carboy loose for 14 days. I can't wait for this to carb up and sample one.
     
  16. #56
    redbenn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 5, 2010
    We brewed ours last night, first batch with this high of OG. Put it in my 6.5g BB, should've used a blowoff tube...
    [​IMG]
    (not sure if the pics will post, since I dont have enough posts)

    It was bubbling pretty good after dinner, went to the gym to find the cap/airlock blown off, foam all over the floor, carboy, wall, etc. Rushed to sanitize the cap/airlock, tried putting it back on, but cracked the airlock in my hand, just read tonight about using a bubbler airlock and a siphon hose as a blowoff tube, so I sanitized those, and recapped and hooked up my contraption, w/ the hose in a bucket of sanitized water.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Is it ruined? I dont think anything got back in, as it was foaming out through the hole/airlock when I put it on.

    Here is a gallery of the results, not too many pics of the mess as I was scrambling to get things sanitized.
     
  17. #57
    HarkinBanks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 5, 2010
    Lesson learned, probably ok if everything was sanitized before using it. Get some fermcap-S, it will save you a lot of blowoff problems. I always use this stuff now and don't worry about blowoffs anymore. I just brewed a 1.098 and there was nothing to worry about with the fermcap.
     
  18. #58
    Austinhomebrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 5, 2010
    Better yet, you need a larger fermenter than a 6 gallon water bottle for such a big beer.

    Forrest
     
  19. #59
    trip2hard

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 12, 2010
    So whats the recipe anyone post it or do they not tell ya the grain bill.?
     
  20. #60
    jkarp

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 12, 2010
    It's all over the net - did you try a search?

    Here's the version handed out by Vinny himself.
     
  21. #61
    HarkinBanks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2010
    I am sampling my first few bottles of this recipe and it is f-ing really good. It finished pretty dry for me so upping the mash temp a bit is the way to go. The nose and sweetness from the insane amount of hops is there as in the real thing. Color is a bit darker, but it is really a fabulous brew. Well worth brewing up if you are a hop head like I am. Gotta have this year round now, it will become a staple in my house.
     
  22. #62
    Scut_Monkey

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2010
    This is the problem. I loved my clone so much that now that I'm down to 4 bottles my skin is itching cause I know I need to brew it again..... and it ain't cheap.
     
  23. #63
    HarkinBanks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2010
    Time to go bulk, I never would have brewed it without getting cheap 50 lb sacks of two row and hops by the lb from hopsdirect.
     
  24. #64
    bendavanza

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2010
    My keg emptied last week and I was sad.
     
  25. #65
    HalfPint

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2010
    What's the recipe look like?
     
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