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Advice needed on building a Mash Tun

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by BonzoAPD, Aug 22, 2013.

 

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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    Hey guys, I need some advice on building a Mash Tun. I have watched a bunch of videos on youtube on building mash tuns. Would love to get your input on what style you suggest. I have seen both water cooler styles as well as the rectangle style coolers used. Which do you find works best or is there no real difference?

    If going the water cooler way, which is better, a braided intake or a false bottom?

    What size is recommended for 5 gallon batches?
     
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    DrunkleJon

    Objects in mirror are closer than they appear  

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    Well. First you take a Tun, then you mash the living daylights out of it...

    Sorry. I am a little sleep deprived today. Both have their merits. I use a bazooka screen. They are stiffer than many of the braided hoses which can collapse under the weight of the mash. As for problems, they do get stuck sparges. False bottoms are great too, but at times can be annoying in that they can at times lift off the bottom or not form a great seal and as a result let grain through. You can use a 5 Gal drink cooler, though I got a 10 gallon and do not regret it as it compensates for higher gravity brews and I have made a 10 gallon batch on accident because I didnt realize I bought for it thinking it was a recipe for 5 gallons. You can also use a square cooler with braid/bazooka/manifold to great effect as well.
     
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    twistr25

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    5 gallon cooler is tight for 5 gallon batches, but I've made it work to great success. I have a braid and I also use a BIAB bag. Effectively a whole tun false bottom. Works everytime.
     
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    webby45wr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    I went with a rectangular cooler because I had one laying around, so the price was right. I then built a manifold out of cpvc pipe. It works well and has a 13 gallon capacity, which is nice.

    When I priced things out it seemed like rectangular coolers are cheaper than round water coolers, so that may be a potential reason for going that route.
     
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    antitelephonica

    Active Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    I went with the 15gal stainless steel sankey keg with false bottom for a mash tun as i am not partial to what happens when you mix 150 degree mash with plastic for an hour. Wrapped in a green military foam mat, it only loses 1 degree per hour and allows for 5 or 10 gal batches.
     
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    feinbera

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    Whatever you do, go bigger than 5 gallons! Even with low-to-medium-gravity batches that the mash volume calculators tell you will fit in five gallons with almost a gallon to spare, you'll appreciate having much more than a gallon spare space when you miss your temps by a few degrees and have to add water, or when you get to a "stir vigorously" step.

    If you're DIY'ing, SS braid is easier and cheaper than false bottom (or manifold), and unless you're fly-sparging, you don't need to worry about channelling and what-not. I'd say, spend the $7 on the SS braid for now, keep it simple with batch sparging, and when and if you decide to upgrade your process, you'll have gotten your $7 worth outta that braid.

    On a similar note, if you get a cooler, get one with a spigot -- you can unscrew the spigot by hand, leaving a perfect-sized hole for DIY or LHBS-bought 1/2" ID fittings.
     
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
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    Dolomieu

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    You asked about a braid and a false bottom, but what about a Cpvc manifold? I had a 5gal cooler with a braid and didn't care for the capacity or the braid. Made a fun out of an ice cube cooler with a Cpvc manifold and it worked much better. Of I hadn't moved to a keg with a false bottom I may have covered the manifold with the a ss braid.
     
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    Can you post more info on a Cpvc manifold?
     
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    dgr

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    Dolomieu

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    FuzzeWuzze

    I Love DIY

    Posted Aug 22, 2013
    As stated, get a minimum of a 10 gallon capacity for a 5 gallon batch. This allows you to do bigger double IPA's/Imperial Stouts/etc.

    Whether you go round cooler or rectangle is really up to you. If you ever think you may move to 10 gallon batches just start with a large rectangular.
     
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2013
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2013
    Does it matter if it is just a regular coleman cooler or do I have to get a coleman extreme?
     
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    LovesIPA

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 23, 2013
    I use a 10 gallon igloo with a copper manifold. I brew 5 gallon batches.

    The manifold works great. I would recommend using one in a heartbeat. I've never used a false bottom, SS braid or bazooka screen so I can't recommend one over the other.

    The size is great for any 5 gallon batch you want to make, but if you ever want to brew 10 gallon batches, you'll need another mash tun for high gravity beers. Just something to keep in mind.
     
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2013
    Anyone?
     
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    dgr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2013
    bonzo,
    The better insulated cooler will in theory hold temperature better. You might only see a one degree drop during your mash. Maybe your will see a 2 or 4 degree drop with a cheaper cooler.

    I think head space reduction is important for maintaining temp.
    There are ways around this. Wrap the lid seam in plastic wrap, wrap the cooler in old blankets, etc. lots ofpeople use the round coolers and i don't think they are insulated as well as an extreme cooler.

    For absolute repeatability, i would think that the better insulation would help.
    Just my thoughts. I bought a cheap 52 quart. Hopefully i will have time to test it soon.
     
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2013
    Thanks dgr. I think I will go with the extreme, only thing I am worried about it is that the inside has a indentation near the stopper which would be an area I would not get the water from. Not sure how big of a deal that is
     
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    LovesIPA

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2013
    Fill it in with some food grade silicon. Problem solved. :)
     
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    BonzoAPD

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2013
    where would I get that?
     
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    LovesIPA

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Aug 24, 2013
    I bought mine on amazon.
     
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