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5gal to 10 gal grain bill

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by skallywag_brewing, Feb 21, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    skallywag_brewing

    Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2015
    I have been brewing in five gallon batches for awhile and have had friends and family ask for more. I would like to start brewing 10 gallon all-grain batches and wonder do i just double the grain bill for 5 gallon batches? I have looked at the recipes and noticed that some people double the grain bill while others leave it at the original 5 gallons. :confused:
     
  2. #2
    SavoryChef

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2015
    Just double it. Use a recipe program like BeerSmith and it will help a lot.
     
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    Natdavis777

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2015
    +1 for a program, as sometimes its not always just doubling of the numbers...
     
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    fimpster

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 21, 2015
    I'm curious to know where you saw people brew 10 gallons with a 5 gallon grain bill.
     
  5. #5
    TungstenBeer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 24, 2015
    I'd love to know how to get 10 gallons of beer out of a 5 gallon grain bill!

    But seriously, I'm assuming that they just used the same percentages.
     
  6. #6
    wardens355

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Feb 24, 2015
    You may need to up your grain amounts a little bit more than double. For example: For a 5-gallon batch you want 5.5 gallons of cooled wort. Let's assume after boil-off & shrinkage, you lose 1.5 gallons. Your pre-boil wort is going to be 7 gallons. When you move to 10-gallon batches, you will probably want to end up with 11 gallons of cooled wort. Assuming the same boil-off & shrinkage rate, you would need a pre-boil volume of 12.5 gallons. However, to try to match your 5-gallon efficiency, you would need to run-off an extra 1.5 gallons (scaling 2X from 7 gallons pre-boil to 14 gallons pre-boil) and then boiloff an extra 1.5 gallons. If you don't, you will likely have a slightly lower starting gravity.

    I would guess maybe 5% extra grain or so.

    Just a thought.
     
  7. #7
    jgers

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 2, 2015
    Doubling the recipe is the easy part -- the equipment and process is the tricky bit.

    You need twice the mash tun space (maybe you already have a 10g cooler) and twice the kettle space (in one or more kettles). You will have one burner working on twice as much wort (unless its in 2 kettles on 2 burners) and your chiller will also have to work through twice as much hot wort. There are some big growing pains with upsizing batches - either in time, labor or money for bigger equipment.

    Jason
     
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