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456123? 123456? 451236? 456 stop?

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by JonM, Dec 17, 2015.

 

  1. #1
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    Star Wars fans know what I'm talking about. What's your preference? I've become a 456 stop guy myself.
     
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  2. #2
    EtchyLives

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    I only believe in 456 but there is a lot of support for the Machete (45236) series. You start with Luke, follow him through Empire, then go back in time to see the cautionary tale of Anakin/Vader growing into the dark side, then return to see Luke struggle with the same challenge and take a different path.

    You still have to suffer through Ep 2, though.
     
  3. #3
    masonsjax

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    The dialogue in 123 make it near impossible for me to watch. Lots of great imagery though. 456 hold a special place in my heart, same as many others, but I often wonder how I would react had they just been released in my adulthood. I mean, is Jar Jar really much worse than C3PO and Ewoks?
     
  4. #4
    bschot

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    If you hunt around YouTube you can find edited versions of Ep 1. If fact here is a link for Ep. 1. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfQBdRcgizc[/ame] I thought it was pretty good but it had been so long since I've seen Phantom I don't really remember the original. He also edited the other 5 movies but I haven't watched them yet.
     
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  5. #5
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    I've been watching 456 in the original theatrical release form, in all their celluloid graininess, poor aspect ratio glory. No additional effects, no windows in Cloud City, the original music in Jabba's palace, no images of Couriscant, Greedo doesn't get a shot off, etc.

    I may bring the laptop to my brewing area and finish watching this weekend.
     
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  6. #6
    JonW

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    The wife never watched them, so we've been doing the machete order. She said she wanted to see #1, so we're doing the optional machete order of 451236. #2 is up tonight.

    She really didn't understand why we would watch in this order. I just said, trust me.
     
  7. #7
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    Heard a good one yesterday:

    Why does it go 456123?

    Because in charge of planning Yoda was.
     
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  8. #8
    agrazela

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    How about 4, 5, stop.

    'Cause 6 is just cartoonish, and as for the others I'll wait for the Abrams remakes.
     
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  9. #9
    Ridire

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    You think Jedi is just cartoonish?


    I hated 1. However, I still say 1,2,3,4,5,6. I did not think 3 was horrible. 5 is the best, of course, but meaningless without the context.

    I'm glad to see Lucas completely removed from the creative end of this. Two things that could have made 2 and 3 pretty good flicks: 1. complete elimination of Jar Jar Binks (obviously) and 2. cast someone else as Anikan. You have the central character to the plot portrayed by the worst actor to ever "grace" the silver screen. Why?!?!?

    EDIT: problem with introducing someone new to the movies in the 1 2 3 4 5 6 order is that you may lose the viewer at 1...
     
  10. #10
    hunter_le five

    Sheriff Underscore

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    I love every single Star Wars film ever made. All three of them. Looking forward to the fourth one, but I am being cautiously optimistic.

    Speaking of sequels, it's a damned shame they never made any sequels to "The Matrix". I thought it was a fine flick, and deserved continuation.
     
  11. #11
    Ridire

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    Prequel denier!!!!
     
  12. #12
    TexasDroughtBrewery

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    456 stop
     
  13. #13
    LandoLincoln

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    There's really no reason to watch 123 unless you want to get angry.
     
  14. #14
    LandoLincoln

    Well-Known Member

  15. #15
    Sailingeric

    Beer. Now there's a temporary solution

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    That my wife and I did this last weekend in prep for the new one. Grainy but good!

    HAN SHOT FIRST! :mug:
     
  16. #16
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    Or 123 followed by:

    http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

    As for cartoonish ROTJ, yes the Ewoks were pretty darn silly and it would have made a hell of a lot more sense if they had been wookies. Or Bothans. Wouldn't Bothans have made sense?
     
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    1977Brewer

    Free Dan Hess.

    Posted Dec 17, 2015

    I always wondered why there aren't more Wookies. Wookies rule. I'm not an Ewok hater by any means though. I know I'm supposed to, but I saw ROTJ first, at six years old. I was the target Ewok audience.
     
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    hunter_le five

    Sheriff Underscore

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    [​IMG]
     
  19. #19
    jafo28

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    456 Stop for me. In fact I have yet to see 3. 1&2 just didn't do it for me, and I just never bothered to watch 3.
     
  20. #20
    iijakii

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    I honestly think Phantom Menace is one of the better of all six movies. Yes, I know Jar Jar and anything kid-centric is annoying, but you're fooling yourself if you think the others, originals included, aren't filled with terrible dialogue and annoying characters. Darth Maul and Qui-Gon are the coolest things in Star Wars, and they more than make up for Jar Jar.

    But I say this as not much of a fan of the Star Wars movies. I enjoy the universe, but holy hell are the plots/dialogue bad. I am looking forward to seeing what SW without Lucas can be.

    Edit: 2 is the worst by far. Anakin love story, random droid army battles. Terrible. Portman was a babe though.
     
  21. #21
    ArkotRamathorn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    123456

    But I am particular about watching things in order.

    Also I was 12/13 when 1 came out, so I was just old enough to know about Star Wars, but not old enough to know about "black-face". Jar-Jar is a vaguely racist character... to an adult, everyone else (children) Jar-Jar is just a goofy alien that speaks funny is always getting into trouble and if you look at his character as PURELY something to draw the younger generation in, he's not quite so annoying.

    If you go back and watch Yoda when he first appeared he clearly was goofing off until he started seriously training Luke.

    1. Yoda spoke funny
    2. Yoda looked funny

    The two major qualities of Yoda you notice first when you first meet the character, are the exact same two qualities you notice about Jar Jar. Obviously Jar Jar was never redeemed (and shouldn't be, he is basically at fault for the entire clone wars) but before we get into completely slamming how bad his character is, he was exactly what he was supposed to be (a character to keep the younger generation interested in, and eventually obsessed with the SW universe).

    Granted, he's probably the worst thing to ever happen ever and he has some of the most annoying lines ever written, and I feel like stabbing my eyes out with forks when I watch it now...
     
  22. #22
    Genghis

    How tall is justice?  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    I'd say 451236, if I was going to introduce it to someone (I'll eventually do this with my daughters).

    Much prequel hate here. But, as much as 1 and 2 weren't that great (2 especially... the whole Anakin/Padme romance was cringe-worthy), I still maintain that 3 is better than 6.
     
  23. #23
    isseldor

    Active Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    I really agree with the machete order of 45236. He lays out a well thought out argument for this order. And I "almost" agree with Genghis, I think 3 is a good movie and will stand up with the originals, but I can't bring myself to say it's better than 6. Ewan McGregor nails the role of Obi Wan in 3.
     
  24. #24
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
  25. #25
    Ridire

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
    Haha...I am a mere 12 days from ground zero.
     
  26. #26
    PlexVector

    Mellow Goose Brewing  

    Posted Dec 17, 2015
  27. #27
    Rivenin

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    for audio as well, it was ****ing fantastic.

    It was the first movie i watched after i setup 7.1 surround with my projector.
    i couldn't stop watching the pod racing scene.... and the fight scenes...
     
  28. #28
    Zuljin

    I come from the water  

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    Then you'll watch them in the order they came out.
     
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  29. #29
    dn151864

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    I prefer watching in this order - 1,1,1, and 2 but only the love scenes between Anakin and Padme.
     
  30. #30
    daveMN

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    This is the only way to go. I watched a 456 on Blu Ray marathon with friends last weekend and it was like watching a Dr Who episode. Nothing wrong with Dr Who, just have a problem with George Lucas trying to turn 456 into 123.
     
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    hunter_le five

    Sheriff Underscore

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
  32. #32
    masonsjax

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    I actually have 4,5,6 on DVD from the old laserdisk transfers, before Lucas went and screwed with everybody's childhood memories. They're dark and grainy, but oh so comforting.
     
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    ArkotRamathorn

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2015

    Well, if I were to show Star Wars to someone who has never watched it, it's probably be easier to hook them by watching 123456. I personally just watch whatever one I want most of the time cause I've seen them all a hundred+ times.

    Has anyone has experience with newer generation of kids getting them into SW when they're 10-13? 456 were the only ones out when I was a little kid so it was easy to get me to watch them and got into it.
     
  34. #34
    hunter_le five

    Sheriff Underscore

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    If Episode One was my first exposure to Star Wars, it would have been the only Star Wars film I'd ever see.
     
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  35. #35
    m00ps

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    Arent there like a ton of cartoons and cartoon-style video games out about the clone wars saga? I figured that is how kids would get into it. That, or their parents forcing them to watch it like Bible time on Sunday
     
  36. #36
    JonM

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    I haven't seen it, but I have heard (from people who know their Star Wars) that the Clone Wars cartoons tell the story that should have been told in the prequel movies.
     
  37. #37
    1977Brewer

    Free Dan Hess.

    Posted Dec 18, 2015

    Pretty much this. It's a great series.

    Rebels tells the pre-123 story, and it's really well done also. My son loves the crap outta Rebels. We DVR and marathon it fairly often.
     
  38. #38
    1977Brewer

    Free Dan Hess.

    Posted Dec 18, 2015

    I meant post-clone wars.
     
  39. #39
    murphyslaw

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    I grew up a big fan, so the order doesn't so much matter to me. I just re-watched 1, 2, and 3 and plan to watch 4,5,6 again before seeing the new one. 1 was as terrible as ever but 2 wasn't nearly as bad as I remember. Maybe its because I'm watching fan edits on youtube. Somehow I never saw 3 until last night.

    But I was reading about the machete order last night and I completely agree that anyone who hasn't seen the movies should use that order. I mean, there are two kinda big reveals in the series. Episode 3 spoils both. Watching them 1-6 literally ruins the best parts of the best episodes. You really can't watch them in order.

    And Episode 1 really has no bearing on the rest of the series.
     
  40. #40
    Ridire

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Dec 18, 2015
    My son is geeked up about the new movie mostly because of the game Battlefronts (the old one). He is 10 and has been playing the old Battlefronts game on my old PS2 for a couple of years now. He knows so much about the franchise just from that game. He has the new Battlefront coming for Christmas this year, along with a PS4.
     
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