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2nd brew- Brewing Dry Dock Urca Vanilla Porter- should I make a starter?

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by formula2fast, Mar 4, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    formula2fast

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    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    On saturday of next weekend, I am going to be brewing Dry Dock Urca Vanilla Porter. It has a OG of 1.061. I am using Wyeast's 1056 American Ale yeast.

    Should I be making a starter for this beer? Wyeast suggests that 1.060 and higher OG should have a starter, but it is so close, I am not sure it would matter. I am too new to this and have never made a starter, so I am not sure how forgiving they can be.

    Point me in the right direction. Should I make a starter with every beer I do regarless of OG? Should I follow the 1.060 and above starter rule?
     
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    deepcdan99

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    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    Personally I wouldn't but wouldn't hurt any to make one and learn a bit more in this fantastic jury we are on......cheers!
     
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    Waynep005

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    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    You should make a starter. Check out Mr Malty.com which has pich rates for yeast.
     
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    Wisluggo

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    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    I made this kit, and I did not use a starter. By the way, mine is in bottles and it tastes awesome...like a vanilla milkshake.

    I soaked the beans in vodka and added that to the secondary, versus throwing them right on the beer.
     
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    joety

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    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    You could have success without one with this beer to be sure, but if you want to assure proper attentuation and a quicker start that avoids off flavors getting a foothold in your beer, the safer bet is to use a starter.
     
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    formula2fast

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    Posted Mar 4, 2012
    Sounds like I should be making a starter. Thanks for the input guys.

    Wisluggo, I am glad it turned out great, and I think I may use your idea of soaking the beans in vodka and adding them during 2ndary. How long did you let them soak?
     
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    rswear

    Active Member

    Posted Mar 5, 2012
    Hey I have the same kit in my primary, I also used Wyeast 1056.
    It’s been a week but I am going to give it another before moving to secondary. I may try soaking the beans in vodka too, sounds interesting.

    I always do starters and did a 1 liter on a stir plate for this one. As someone else said, check out Mr.Malty.
    I found this nice tutorial on using it. http://billybrew.com/yeast-starter-size
     
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    Wisluggo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 6, 2012
    I cut the beans into half inch pieces, split them open, scraped the insides out, and put them in a mason jar. I poured vodka over the top just enough to cover them. I then let it sit at room temp for 3 days, and one week before bottling I added half the mixture. If you add all of it, you will add too much vanilla flavor. A little goes a long way.
     
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    formula2fast

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Mar 6, 2012
    When you say put them in a mason jar, do you mean the beans, or the insides that you scraped out?
     
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    Seven

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    Posted Mar 6, 2012
    All of it goes into the jar (the insides and the outer shell).

    And yes, I'd recommend making a starter always when using liquid yeast. Make the starter a couple of days before brewing so you'll have time to chill and decant the spent wort... although you could just pitch the whole thing if you want.
     
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    Wisluggo

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    Posted Mar 7, 2012
    ^this

    All of the beans and their parts go into the jar.
     
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    formula2fast

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    Posted Mar 7, 2012
    Sounds good...I will do just that and let you know how it turns out. I can't wait to get this one going.
     
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    Draygon

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    Posted Mar 24, 2012
    Does anyone have an actual Partial Mash recipe for this? I see the kit and would love to get it, but something tells me that one could get all the ingredients cheaper than buying the kid.
     
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    JDSanders

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    Posted Mar 24, 2012
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    JDSanders

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    Posted Mar 24, 2012
    Also I priced it out on NB before I bought the kit. It was about $2 more to buy everything separate.

    To the OP like mentioned above you are going to love this one. It was my 8th brew and hands down my best to date. I went with the dry yeast option which I pitched dry and had no issues.
     
  16. #16
    formula2fast

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    Posted Mar 24, 2012
    I just racked to my secondary and tasted a sample. Even without the vanilla at this point, it is one great beer already, and it still has lots of room and time to improve. I am excited about this one!
     
  17. #17
    Draygon

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    Posted Mar 25, 2012
    Thx JDSanders for that overlook on my part.

    Reason I was asking is one of my best friends works for Avery Brewing and also for a Brew House so I get the ingreds and a pretty good price :)
     
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    Aa760

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Sep 18, 2012
    Anyone soak their beans in Bourbon for this one? If so, please share details! The 6 beans that came with the kit are making me nervous- don't want to overdo it and could use some feedback from those more experienced with vanilla bean additions.
     
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