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Old 01-21-2009, 01:48 AM   #1
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My first batch is a stout. It's been in the bottle for about 4 weeks, and still tastes like crap. It's really perfumey and nasty.

I did modify the recipe. It was a kit recipe for a stout. I added 2.25 oz of vanilla extract at bottling. I used 2 quarts 100% pure apple juice in addition to top off water when going to primary. It didn't dawn on me until afterward that the apple juice would become cider. The cider taste is coming through a little and is distinctly separate from the perfume smell and taste.

When siphoning to the bottling bucket, I did get air pockets in the tube and had to restart. I can't remember if I had the lid on the boil pot the whole time or not. I've learned it's best to boil topless to get rid of nasties...

Should I dump it or age it?

 
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:58 AM   #2
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I would say if you don't need the bottles/keg then just let it sit for a while. I will admit that a stout with apple juice is nothing I have experience with and I doubt many folks do, but age tend to make most flavors more harmonious for a lack of a better word. I have had many a batch that tasted like crap after 4 weeks that tasted ok at 8-12 weeks. Again though you are WAY outside the box on your apple juice stout .
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:10 AM   #3
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You'll find my answer and many other people's experience in this thread.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/neve...en-beer-73254/

And read this as well. http://blogs.homebrewtalk.com/Revvy/..._Conditioning/

Most of my stouts and porters didn't become drinkable for about 6-8 weeks.
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Old 01-21-2009, 02:44 PM   #4
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I'd guess the problem is the vanilla extract and that will blend in after a couple months.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:34 PM   #5
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Ok. I gotta ask. How did you come up with the idea to put vanilla and apple juice together? I definitely respect your creativity.... but i can't for the life of me determine the inspiration?
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:45 PM   #6
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You'll find my answer and many other people's experience in this thread.

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/neve...en-beer-73254/

And read this as well. http://blogs.homebrewtalk.com/Revvy/..._Conditioning/

Most of my stouts and porters didn't become drinkable for about 6-8 weeks.


Revvy,

Don't you have a thread or a post that you have that talks about how until you know what you are doing you shouldn't mess with a recipe otherwise it might turn out tasting like a teletubbies rear end drainings?

I can't imagine apple juice and vanilla ever tasting good together. I think the only hope here is that one, or both, will completely fade with time. Apple juice and vanilla? Really? I know, I know, seemed like a good idea at the time.

+1 on the fact that I don't even try my stouts or porters until about 6 weeks in bottle.
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:53 PM   #7
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Lots of age.... that's my prescription to your alement

 
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Old 01-21-2009, 05:53 PM   #8
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I've learned it's best to boil topless...
Just don't stand too close to the kettle.
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Revvy,

Don't you have a thread or a post that you have that talks about how until you know what you are doing you shouldn't mess with a recipe otherwise it might turn out tasting like a teletubbies rear end drainings?

I can't imagine apple juice and vanilla ever tasting good together. I think the only hope here is that one, or both, will completely fade with time. Apple juice and vanilla? Really? I know, I know, seemed like a good idea at the time.

+1 on the fact that I don't even try my stouts or porters until about 6 weeks in bottle.
I might have, though I don't recall being so creative with the description...Teletubbie's excretions sounds more like Evan!'s style....

BTW, I've been wondering about the beer you pmmned be about...pm me and tell me what you decided.
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I've learned it's best to boil topless
I would like this scenario better....

 
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