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Old 01-18-2009, 09:50 PM   #1
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Ok a few months ago I tried Bud's American Ale which sucked (worse than a regular BMC) and Friday I tried a Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale which tasted very similar the the Bud American Ale. I could drink it but didn't like it a bit. I am warming up to pale ales which makes me think I'm starting to become more of a fan of highly hopped beers (the SN pale ale was my favorite of the 6'er) but I have a feeling the flavor I didn't like in the Celebration Ale / American Ale was the cascade hops possibly. I did notice that the Celebration ale was labeled as a craft beer featuring cascade hops. So help me understand exactly what it was I didn't like.

 
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:53 PM   #2
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Craft beer is basically just a term given to breweries that put out too much product to be called microbreweries anymore, but still make "real" beer (not BMC). Sam Adams is known as a craft brewery.

If you are just getting into beer, then I recommend trying SN Celebration Ale again next year. I'm willing to bet you will regret comparing it to Bud Ale

 
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Old 01-18-2009, 09:54 PM   #3
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Craft beer... its another way to say home brew or micro brew... tend to be a certin style which isnt massivly produced because its complicated and requires extra care to detail that we HB'ers do every brew we do... or atleast thats the way i think of it

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Old 01-18-2009, 10:02 PM   #4
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Craft beer... its another way to say home brew or micro brew... tend to be a certin style which isnt massivly produced because its complicated and requires extra care to detail that we HB'ers do every brew we do... or atleast thats the way i think of it

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One of my best friends is a brewmaster for one of the BMC breweries and I can assure you that complication has nothing to do with it. He has a Masters Degree in Microbiology and has forgotten more about brewing than 99% of the experts on here know. I am not saying this to take anything away from this wonderful group of people, but it's a whole different ballgame. He'd love to have the lattitude to produce higher quality beers, but that is not what they do. At the end of the day, they are making a product that is marketed to the masses and requires a healthy profit margin to stay in business.

FWIW, he is also a home brewer in his spare time and his product at home in no way resembles that at work.
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Craft brews, micro brews, to me, as long as there is some extra care put into the product, and the end results are not pale, tasteless, kidney wash, a good brew is a good brew. wow, too many comma's.
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One of my best friends is a brewmaster for one of the BMC breweries and I can assure you that complication has nothing to do with it. He has a Masters Degree in Microbiology and has forgotten more about brewing than 99% of the experts on here know. I am not saying this to take anything away from this wonderful group of people, but it's a whole different ballgame.
You are completely right. The BMC beers are some of the hardest to replicate because they are so light (both in color and flavor) so any little mistake shows up. Very unforgiving.

 
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:17 PM   #7
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So I wonder what exactly I didn't like about the SN celebration ale and the Bud American Ale.

 
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So I wonder what exactly I didn't like about the SN celebration ale and the Bud American Ale.
Well, I'm guessing you didn't like the Budweiser Ale because it is crap

 
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Old 01-18-2009, 10:30 PM   #9
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I suspect you are not that keen on hops. Try a more malty beer. A winter ale or something. I can't help you with a commercial brew suggestion, I don't buy too many.

 
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One of my best friends is a brewmaster for one of the BMC breweries and I can assure you that complication has nothing to do with it. He has a Masters Degree in Microbiology and has forgotten more about brewing than 99% of the experts on here know. I am not saying this to take anything away from this wonderful group of people, but it's a whole different ballgame. He'd love to have the lattitude to produce higher quality beers, but that is not what they do. At the end of the day, they are making a product that is marketed to the masses and requires a healthy profit margin to stay in business.

FWIW, he is also a home brewer in his spare time and his product at home in no way resembles that at work.
Ummm, what does this have to do with craft brews???
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