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Old 01-14-2009, 10:59 PM   #1
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I was wondering if anyone had any input on flavoring with cinnamon sticks. I boiled my cider with two large sticks, and added them to the primary. Should I fish them out of there after a few days? Will they impart overwhelming flavor if left in too long? How long is too long?



 
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:07 AM   #2
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well first, NEVER boil the cider. It will set the pectin and may never clear. You didn't say how much cider you have but if its 5 gallons of less take the cinnamon out now. Boiling it will have taken out a lot of flavor.

Most people put in 1 to 1.5 sticks in the secondary for a few weeks.


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Old 01-15-2009, 10:59 AM   #3
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Good to know. What temperature does the pectin set? I didn't bring it to a full boil, just heated it to under boiling, so I guess "boil" was the wrong word entirely. I've heated this cider before, last time I made mead, to around the same temp, and it cleared up fine after a couple of months in secondary, and at the time I didn't know about pectin enzymes, so I suspect I'm fine there.

Yes, its a 5 gallon batch. I took the cinnamon out as you suggested, and drew off a sample to taste. It has a barely noticable cinnamon hint to it, but nothing overpowering. This might come to the front a little more as sweetness goes down. Thanks for the info.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:30 PM   #4
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well first, NEVER boil the cider. It will set the pectin and may never clear. You didn't say how much cider you have but if its 5 gallons of less take the cinnamon out now. Boiling it will have taken out a lot of flavor.

Most people put in 1 to 1.5 sticks in the secondary for a few weeks.
So don't put the sticks in the primary? Whats the process on getting them out of the carboy? Siphon off to another carboy?

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 08:50 PM   #5
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So don't put the sticks in the primary? Whats the process on getting them out of the carboy? Siphon off to another carboy?
I'd think that would give you a risk of oxidization. I'd probably tie a cotton thread to the sticks so I could pull them back out, if they were going in a carbuoy. Mine were just in fermenter bucket, so I just fished them out with my sanitized mixing spoon.

 
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:29 PM   #6
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Heat to about 120 and only use enough to dissolve the sugar or honey. No need to heat more than you need. A gallon is more than enough. I put the cinnamon in the secondary in a small herb bag then remove when its where I want it or you can rack to another carboy if you need to get it off the cinnamon sticks. Oxidation isn't that big of a deal with cider if you use standard precautions.
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Old 01-16-2009, 05:20 PM   #7
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Heat to about 120 and only use enough to dissolve the sugar or honey. No need to heat more than you need. A gallon is more than enough. I put the cinnamon in the secondary in a small herb bag then remove when its where I want it or you can rack to another carboy if you need to get it off the cinnamon sticks. Oxidation isn't that big of a deal with cider if you use standard precautions.
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