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Old 01-12-2009, 11:16 PM   #1
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I'm looking for opinions on the following recipe before I give it a whirl. I've tried experimental recipes that I pulled out of my a$$ before with good results, this one just sort of dawned on me as another high abv drink that would be cheap and easy to produce(perfect for us poor college students).

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2lbs Corn Syrup
2lbs Uncooked Brown Rice,
1tsp Bread Yeast

Dissolve syrup in warm water, pour on top of uncooked brown rice in fermentation vessel, shake. When temp is right add bread yeast and let sit 'till the cows come home. According to Tastybrew.com, I should achieve somewhere around 16% abv, though that number is based on white rice.

I suppose this is some sort of mead/sake hybrid....comment away.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 12:58 AM   #2
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While that combination of ingredients will ferment, it is neither a mead or a sake as it contains no honey nor the very specific type of mold (Aspergillis, pre-inoculated on a rice base as a product called koji) that is used to make Sake.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 01:16 AM   #3
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Very true on both points, thank you.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 03:20 AM   #4
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The only real question (concern) I have is what effect the rice will have on the resultant "beverage". Because rice is predominantly a starch and provides no enzymes of its own, it will not ferment. As such, I question whether it adds anything beneficial...

When Sake is made, the enzymes that convert the rice starches into fermentable sugars are provided by the aspergillis mold - under very specific and demanding conditions.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 03:41 AM   #5
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According to tastybrew, the 2lbs of rice would add 5.8% abv. I don't know or understand how that is, but I know many commercial beer companies use plain 'ol rice in their beer. I always assumed it acted to lighten the flavor...not sure what difference brown rice would have.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 03:44 AM   #6
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Tastybrew may be assuming that it's being mashed with something with enzymes, and likely assuming it's flaked rice.
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:57 AM   #7
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Well I suppose I could leave out the rice; of course at that point I'm simply fermenting corn syrup with bread yeast. Not something I'm against trying, of course I would most likely end up with a flavorless, body-less alcohol...

One possible revision to my recipe:
2lbs Corn Syrup
2lbs Brown Sugar
1tsp Bread Yeast

Any takers?

 
Old 01-13-2009, 04:17 AM   #8
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another high abv drink that would be cheap and easy to produce (perfect for us poor college students)
That is precisely the definition of hooch. We don't allow hooch threads, and this one's on the ragged edge.
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Old 01-13-2009, 04:19 AM   #9
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Try Joe's Ancient Orange mead, or a similar recipe. Have a spiced holiday mead going now that smells amazing, using all ingredients from the grocery store except for the wine yeast.

Well, technically, I bought the honey at LHBS, but that's because I changed the recipe from 1 gallon to 6, and didn't want to buy 24 pounds of honey 8 oz at a time.

 
Old 01-13-2009, 04:24 AM   #10
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I really wasn't going for hooch, I apologize if my lack of funding offends anyone. I am going for the GaP approach, have made a few successful batches of mead using bread yeast and honey which I will continue to do...now I'm just trying to make something that will be as good as mead but without taking 6 months to be drinkable.

 
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