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Old 05-19-2006, 02:17 PM   #1
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I've been thinking about a way to make bottling easier towards the bottom of the bucket. Let me know your thoughts on this:

What if I made a Z-shaped connection of copper pipe pieces and hammered down the bottom piece into a thin, wide mouth. In theory, this would suck the beer from the bottom instead of 1.5" from the bottom like bottling buckets are typically laid out. Would that work well with a bottling wand?
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Old 05-19-2006, 02:22 PM   #2
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No, this would not work. A bottling bucket isn't 'sucking' the beer out, it is allowing gravity to do it's work--- effectively your beer is 'falling' out of the bottling bucket.

Your plan merely puts the mouth of the spigot lower but once the fluid reaches thelevel of the bottom of the spigot, the flow will stop.
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Old 05-19-2006, 02:45 PM   #3
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No, this would not work. A bottling bucket isn't 'sucking' the beer out, it is allowing gravity to do it's work--- effectively your beer is 'falling' out of the bottling bucket.

Your plan merely puts the mouth of the spigot lower but once the fluid reaches thelevel of the bottom of the spigot, the flow will stop.
not true.
the first few ounces of beer are 'falling' out of the bucket. but that fluid flow should start a siphon.
i think the plan would work.

 
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:06 PM   #4
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Assuming of course that there is no trub on the bottom. This was the reason I thought that they drill the hole just a little bit from the bottom. I just lean the bucket towards the end to get more, but I can certainly see how this mod would be usefull. Assuming there is nothing on the bottom that you dont want of course.

I also believe that there is a siphon going on.... why.... well when you are filling the bottles and stop, there is still beer in the bottle filler right? Open the flow again and the siphon starts up again. You get to the end and you get that terrible sucking noise right?
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Old 05-19-2006, 03:15 PM   #5
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Ah-- yes-- valid point.

The trub was a good catch though.
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:06 PM   #6
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You don't have a trub if you're using the bottling bucket for bottling post-secondary. Or at least you shouldn't. I bottle the whole kit-and-kaboodle. The siphon should work, but I suppose attaching the hardware to the bottling spigot may be the issue to work around. I'm not following the 'z' configuration, but it should essentially look like a keggle pickup.

 
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Old 05-19-2006, 04:46 PM   #7
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I agree with all the comments made so far, but what's been overlooked is ... when you syphon your beer from the secondary your beer will fill up the bottling tube and filler wand, right?

What happens to that beer after you add your priming sugar?

I think whatever beer is in there will not be mixed with the sugar/DME.

Sounds like another sample to me...
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:12 PM   #8
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I agree with all the comments made so far, but what's been overlooked is ... when you syphon your beer from the secondary your beer will fill up the bottling tube and filler wand, right?

What happens to that beer after you add your priming sugar?

I think whatever beer is in there will not be mixed with the sugar/DME.

Sounds like another sample to me...
wtf?!
did we eliminate the spigot at the bottom of the bottling bucket? i'm confused now. admittedly, i haven't had any beers yet today, so it might be my fault.

 
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Old 05-19-2006, 05:34 PM   #9
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er..what's wrong with rolling up a towel, or using some other form of wedge to facilitate the "last drop" scenario.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:08 PM   #10
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By "Z" config, I mean a 90º elbow pointing down, a little tube to get thear the bottom, and a 90º elbow pointing away from the spigot, at the bottom.

I use a fresh bucket immediately prior to bottling, so there's no trub. I add my priming sugar to the fresh bucket, then siphon my beer on top and give it a slow and steady stir to mix in the priming sugar.

Imagine this is a view inside of the bottling bucket.


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