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Old 12-21-2008, 07:06 PM   #1
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Hello.
First off, let me introduce myself. I am new to this forum, but have rudementary brewing skills. I recently tried a cider. I started with cider from a local farm, pasteurized, now preservatives, added some brown sugar and powdered sugar. and used Champaign yeast. The OG was 1.070. My problem is that it never cleared, even after adding some gelatin. And my final product has an after taste that I can only describe similar to an unfiltered wheat beer (only not good in cider), almost to the point of being un-drinkable. I aged it a while in the secondary, but it is still young. What can I do? Thanks for your help.

 
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:26 PM   #2
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I figure there are a few reasons for the cloudyness and off-flavor. First of all you say you aged it for a while, how long exactly? that "unfiltered wheat beer" taste sounds to me like yeast, or suspended proteins, and even pectic haze (caused by the unfiltered juice) which should settle out given enough time (read: at least 3-4 months) or with some pectic enzyme in respect to the pectin haze. Second, Powdered Sugar actually has corn starch in it, which would thicken and cloud up your cider (also providing quite possibly that off-taste). Cider takes time, leave it alone and come back to it once it's been sitting for 5-6 more months.
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Old 12-21-2008, 07:33 PM   #3
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Thanks, I new I shouldn't use the powdered sugar, but it was available. I will try another batch and see how it comes out.

 
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:17 AM   #4
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Time should cure it.......and lots of time. Be patient. (next time use pectin enzyme)
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:22 AM   #5
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Use pectic enzyme now. It should work just fine. I made the same mistake a while ago, pectic cleared things up in about a week.
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Old 12-22-2008, 01:51 PM   #6
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I will use Pectic Enzyme next time, however, I have already bottled the cider. I am going to experiment with running the cider through some type of filter (coffee filter?) each time I open one. Has anyone had success with this. Thanks again for all your help.

 
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:36 PM   #7
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how much pectin enzyme would yall use for 5gal of cider? Ive got a batch of apfelwein that i used whole cider to make and it hasnt cleared a bit. (been about a month in the primary). Its just 5gal of cider, champange yeast and 2lbs of dextrose. It is still fermenting a little, i just wanna help it along.


 
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:38 PM   #8
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2 or 3 teaspoons and oodles of time will do the job.
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:43 PM   #9
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2 or 3 teaspoons and oodles of time will do the job.
just drop it in? any aggitation or anything?

 
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:51 PM   #10
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I would add it when I mix up the must- I wouldn't add it now because you don't want to stir it up. I'd wait until it's completely done fermenting, and then use some if it hasn't cleared in another month. A fermenting cider will not be clear, because of the yeast in suspension doing their work. It may clear up just fine without any pectic enzyme or other finings.
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