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Old 12-12-2008, 07:54 AM   #1
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I'm sipping on a Chimey Grand Reserve at the moment (blue). Before I popped the bottle, I noticed some serious yeast/sedimentation. I checked the label, and it says right on there "not filtered or pasteurized" and went on to describe how father so-and-so isolated the strain.

Is Chimey a good candidate for bottle harvesting? I've never done it before, but with this much yeast in the bottle it almost seems like child's play. Can one just dump the last inch or so into a prepared starter flask and place on the stir plate?

I'm flirting with the idea of doing a Chimey clone after my next "on deck" brew...
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Old 12-12-2008, 02:15 PM   #2
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I believe that is how New Belgium started their strain in Colorado Springs.
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Old 12-12-2008, 03:57 PM   #3
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I think im not positive but I think I remember hearing that they use a different yeast to bottle than they do to ferment.
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Old 12-12-2008, 04:03 PM   #4
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IIRC Chimay uses the same yeast for bottle conditioning. You can also buy the Wyeast and Whitelabs versions of the strain.

 
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:24 PM   #5
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Is Wyeast 1214 the same strain? If so I'll just buy a packet of that (cheaper than a bottle of Chimay anyway, as ironic as that is). Thanks for the spelling correction too, love it when people do that.
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:30 PM   #6
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I'm not sure specifically about Chimay, but in general most commercial breweries that bottle condition use a different strain for bottling than for fermentation. They do this because their yeast strains are proprietary and they don't want people or other breweries harvesting their yeast and replicating their beer.

 
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:31 PM   #7

If memory serves, 1214 is the Chimay strain. This strain can be slow to get going, so make sure to pitch a large starter.

You can certainly bottle-harvest yeast (after flaming the lip of the bottle), but it often take several bottles worth. The cell count of healthy yeast in the dregs is very small; it can take some time to propagate a suitable amount.


 
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:32 PM   #8
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1) It is Chimay, not Chimey
2) New Belgium is in Fort Collins, not Colorado Springs
3) Chimay does repitch yeast prior to bottling, but it is the same as the primary yeast
4) White Labs 500 and Wyeast 1214 are both the same strain from Chimay (red, blue, and white all use the same yeast both fro primary fermentation and for bottle conditioning)
5) Finally, you can harvest yeast from Chimay bottles, but it is probably easier and better to buy from White Labs or Wyeast and wash if you want to save money


 
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:32 PM   #9
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haha, "Chimey". Just saying that out loud is awesome. Sounds like the name of a 18th century London street urchin. "Aww, guvnah, couldn'tcha speah a shilling'r two for ol' Chimey?"
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Is Wyeast 1214 the same strain? If so I'll just buy a packet of that (cheaper than a bottle of Chimay anyway, as ironic as that is). Thanks for the spelling correction too, love it when people do that.
According to this 1214 is the same strain ... maybe.

 
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