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Old 12-10-2008, 02:41 AM   #1
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I made a blueberry melomel..... Half way

10/17/08
15# clover honey
Energy/nutrient pack
fill to ~5 gallons using bottled spring water
EC-1118
OG 1.091
Airlock was bubbling in 18 hours

11/7/08 (yes only 3 weeks activity had stopped and there was a thick layer of lees)
Racked onto 40oz Blueberries and an additional 5# clover honey
Gravity sample was taken during racking 1.055

11/8/08
No new bubbling activity, but had started drawing great color from the berries. Gravity was 1.088. Blueberry packaging listed no preservatives

11/11/08
Still no activity, pitched a new starter of EC-1118. Fed the starter a few ounces of the blueberry must over a few days to acclimate to the must.

11/12/08
The following morning it was bubbling away. I went out of town for 12 days.

11/24/08
Returned this day and still had occasional bubbles (1 every 3-5 minutes)

11/30/08
No bubbling observed

12/8/08
Racked off berries, didn't want berries to keep leeching more sugar into a stuck fermentation.
Off the berries gravity was 1.080

It smells like blueberry schnapps. Sweet, strong alcohol, and strong berry flavors.


I believe the problem was insufficient aeration. Since this incident i have purchased an aeration kit and used it successfully.

I need advice to save this batch....
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:04 AM   #2
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ummmmm......................repitch?
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Old 12-10-2008, 04:44 AM   #3
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ummmmm......................repitch?
with a quart of starter...?
Mine was pretty similar to this....exactly same berries....Premiere cuvee (Supposedly same strain) worked it out fine.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:16 AM   #4
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Question...Mr Big Kahuna, why do you always post after me? I mean seriously why cant I have the last say on anything? Of course its fine when your response follows one of mine to let me know I succeeded in getting you to spit out your coffee
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:42 PM   #5
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About aeration, some questions (I might be having a similar problem)
Apparently there is some controversy on stirring or shaking the must for aeration. My first I shaked, and progress was steady. The second one I stirred vigorously, but bubbles at day 7 are already somewhat scarce (and its four times the volume of the first one). On measuring it (1100+OG--->1090 now) I gave it a small stir, but it did seem to improve a bit.

So, is in your opinion shaking better then stirring? (or just in some kinds of mead?)
Is the aerator (with filter) a absolutely better way to do it (Im thinking of buying one)
Do berries mead suffer specially from aeration trouble?
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:23 PM   #6
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for aeration go buy the stir stick, its a plactic rod with two little fins that fold up to get in the carboy and fall in once there. at the top of the stick is a metal nub that fits in a drill. This is what I use just start slowly so you dont make a mess, I did that once
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:08 PM   #7
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Put it in a deep, dark closet, and forget about it for 6-9 months. You've probably got higher alcohols, which need to age out. These things take time.
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Old 12-11-2008, 01:08 AM   #8
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based on the gotmead.com calculator my Total OG should be 1.145 and it is only 1.080 after 2 months and no activity. Waiting 6 months is not going to solve this.

I've started a solid 1.5 quart starter. I'm planning on racking off one gallon and pitching a well aerated starter in to the other 4 gallons. Then once the large batch (hopefully) takes off, i will rack it back on to the 1 gallon and leave an active 1/2 gallon bottle to finish.
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based on the gotmead.com calculator my Total OG should be 1.145 and it is only 1.080 after 2 months and no activity. Waiting 6 months is not going to solve this.

I've started a solid 1.5 quart starter. I'm planning on racking off one gallon and pitching a well aerated starter in to the other 4 gallons. Then once the large batch (hopefully) takes off, i will rack it back on to the 1 gallon and leave an active 1/2 gallon bottle to finish.
That sounds like a good plan. Don't forget to add yeast nutrient to the must.
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Old 12-11-2008, 04:27 AM   #10
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based on the gotmead.com calculator my Total OG should be 1.145
Although I do not use that calculator, I do know that your recipe (15# of honey, water to make 5 gal) should result in a must OG of 1.106, not 1.145.

The math is: (1.4171)*(1.271)+(1.000)*(3.75) = OG (Vt)
Vt = 1.271 + 3.75 = 5.02 gallons, and 1.4171 = SG of 18% MC honey, water = 1.000 [15# of honey =1.271 gallons)

Do the math and the OG = 1.1058 (rounded to 1.106)

 
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