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Old 12-08-2008, 05:39 AM   #1
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I've been doing some reading about (genetically modified organism) gmo products and I'm worried about the steady influx of these products into the food supply without being labelled as gmo. I understand that corn is mostly gmo and since dextrose corn sugar is used for brewing, I'm wondering if there are some other alternatives. By the way, I'm also reading that gmo beet sugar will be coming out shortly.

As far as I'm concerned, anything to do with gmo is to be avoided.

Any help would be appreciated.

 
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:43 AM   #2
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Organic Corn Sugar

If you're into organic brewing this place has most everything you'll need.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:27 PM   #3
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As far as I'm concerned, anything to do with gmo is to be avoided.
well, you can make the arguement that all the agriculture we have today is the result of gmo. That's how we got corn in the first place a long, long time ago. Granted it was the result of cross polination and not extracting DNA, but IMO the same thing. I'm more worried about mis-labeled "organic" products than gmo crops. I mean, seriously, can you have "organic" produce that's from farms near places like Mexico City, LA, etc?

 
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:37 PM   #4
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well, you can make the arguement that all the agriculture we have today is the result of gmo. That's how we got corn in the first place a long, long time ago. Granted it was the result of cross polination and not extracting DNA, but IMO the same thing.
Beat me to it. Anti-GMO is sort of like religion...there's absolutely no evidence that modern GMO products have any adverse effects on us, but people still act like it's 'I Am Legend'.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:59 PM   #5
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I don't mind GMO foods... as long as they've been irradiated.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:04 PM   #6
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well, you can make the arguement that all the agriculture we have today is the result of gmo. That's how we got corn in the first place a long, long time ago. Granted it was the result of cross polination and not extracting DNA, but IMO the same thing.

Thanks for saving me the time of typing that...As a molecular biologist, people's ignorance on this topic really frightens me sometimes, almost like letting politicians make decisions on science policy

What exactly will irradiating your GMO foods do for you

As an aside, I've also heard people say they won't eat anything with DNA in it...good luck, and actually spoke with a neurosurgeon (old school to be fair) who thought lettuce didn't have DNA...

 
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Organic Corn Sugar

If you're into organic brewing this place has most everything you'll need.
FYI, organic does not mean GMO-free, in this case, yes, but not for all products. The 'organic' designation just means that no synthetic chemicals were used in farming.

 
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:30 PM   #8
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I believe you can also get dextrose from other sources, not just corn. Northern Brewer list Organic Priming Sugar in 5 oz bags. They list it in the catalog as #40098, "Pure dextrose from organic Tapioca", but it's nowhere on the website at the moment. It's on page 12 of the latest beer catalog from NB.

 
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What exactly will irradiating your GMO foods do for you
Nothing (hence the )... I was just making the point that they're both controversial for some reason and I don't fear either (under standard conditions). The world is having enough trouble feeding it's 7 billion mouths, it's methods like these that can help without being harmful.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:57 PM   #10
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Not to the original poster, but Anti-GMO types have no idea that 90% of all produce these days has been modified genetically. The dutch pioneered the process over a hundred years ago, it is just that these days it is much more "sciency" sounding that cross pollination or selective breeding.

For example broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, kale, kohlrabi, and brussels sprouts are all the same species and look like the do because of selective breeding.

Penn & Teller had a good episode of Bullsh*t about the subject.
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