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Old 06-09-2009, 02:57 PM   #101
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FlyingHorse, what method did you use to cultivate? I haven't done this yet and I'm trying to educate myself before jumping. Similar to joety? I'd rather not have to use the Chris Colby Method,Brew Your Own: The How-To Homebrew Beer Magazine - Story Index - Yeast - Yeast Culturing from Bottles: Techniques, if something easier works. If joetys method works and produces a quality beer I'm up for that. I know this hobby lends itself to being thorough but human nature always longs for the shortcut.
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:04 PM   #102
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I'm so pumped that you guys are enjoying this beer. It was a real treat to put together and is so damn drinkable. Gotta keep refining it.

Keep brewing it up!
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If you want to truly nail it, just propogate the yeast from a couple bottles of the real thing. That's what I did and I am very happy with the results.
Yeah I agree with this... I have a fairly similar clone recipe to this.. Could never get it spot on though until I actually took the yeast from a bells bottle. Not sure what strain they use but if it is one of the ones available to homebrewers it definitely has developed some house characteristics...
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Old 06-09-2009, 04:43 PM   #104
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FlyingHorse, what method did you use to cultivate? I haven't done this yet and I'm trying to educate myself before jumping. Similar to joety?
Pretty much what joety did...I don't even have a stirplate. Just boiled and cooled a pint of 1.040 wort, and tosse it in a mason jar with the dregs of 4 bottles of Two hearted. gave it a shake every so often. After 24 hours there was a noticeable wisp of yeast in the jar; stepped it up to a quart, then 24 hours later to 2 quarts.

Still didn't look like as much yeast as I'd get from a similar starter on a WL or Wyeast pack, but it did the trick...took my 1.064 beer to 1.011 in about 5 days.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:02 PM   #105
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I think I have everything to do this except not sure if I have enough Vienna. Also, I have some Centennial, but probably not enough. Got lots of Cascade, though.

Do you think I should cut back the recipe for the Vienna, or just brew with as much as I have? (Maybe 1/2 required I think).

Also, what about Cascade hops? I might have 1/5 oz oz Centennial. Rest would be Cascade.

I'd like to brew tonight. Only day I can brew all week.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:03 PM   #106
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From what I've read, the yeast in Bell's Two-Hearted (and Brown Ale, and Amber Ale, etc.) is very similar to Wyeast 1272 American Ale II / WLP051 California V, sourced originally from Anchor Liberty. (Whether or not Bell's started out with 1272 or WLP051, I don't know.)

I haven't used the Wyeast/White Labs version that I can recall, but the Bell's version that Larry gave me took right off and immediately went to town on my Amarillo IPA. It's not done yet, but I expect good things.
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Shoot. I forgot that one reason I was putting this one off for brewing today is that I just started the yeast harvest last night. I guess I'll be waiting until next week to do this one.

Maybe I'll do the APA recipe instead...
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So going through the umpteen pages of this post. What is the latest AG recipe look like? This looks like a must brew!
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:15 PM   #109
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depends at what brewhouse efficiency you are at... I calculated mine to 70%

70% BHE
1.066SG 5.8SRM
56.4 IBU
Mash at 151-152
11# 2 row pale us
2.5# Vienna
.5# Cara Pils
.5 Crystal 20L

Pellet hops used.
Centennial 8AA 60 Min 1 oz
Centennial 8AA 15 Min 1oz
Centennial 8AA 5 Min 1oz
Centennial 8AA 1 Min 1oz
Centennial 8AA Dryhop .5oz 5 days after primary fermentation
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I was trolling the other 2hearted threads, and got some feedback on converting an AG to min-mash in another thread I started. This is where I landed, any feedback is appreciated:
Ingredients:
7.5 lbs Extra Pale LME
2 lbs Vienna Malt
1/2 lb Crystal Malt (20L)

Hop Schedule:
1.5 oz centennial 60 min
0.5 oz centennial 30 min
0.75 oz cascade 10 min
0.25 oz cascade at flameout
dry hop .75 oz centennial and 1.00 oz cascade for 9 days.
WLP051 (California V Ale).
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