Coldbreak Brewing HERMS Giveaway!

HomeBrewSupply AMCYL Brew Kettle Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > Sparging Rate Question
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-30-2006, 01:07 AM   #1
gopherhockey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Rosemount, MN
Posts: 23
Default Sparging Rate Question

I did my first all grain yesterday. One thing I thought I needed to do was to sparge at the same rate as the runoff. The problem was with only 5 gal. of water the sparge arm would not rotate and it was difficult to get the rates the same and not have the grainbed go dry.

Should I have instead let it run off slowly but ran the sparge at regular intervals at a higher volume just to keep the water above the grainbed? Only at a high rate would the sparge arm spin.

What is the timing I should be shooting for with a 5 gal. batch? I figured about 20-30 minutes.


__________________
Primary: Double Bock
Secondary: Bock, Chardonnay
Conditioning in Bottles: Kölsch
In Keg: Kölsch, Phat Tyre Ale
Bottled: German Alt, St. Paul Porter
On Deck: Hoegaarden Clone
gopherhockey is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2006, 11:29 AM   #2
ajf
Senior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ajf's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,643
Liked 103 Times on 97 Posts
Likes Given: 39

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopherhockey
Should I have instead let it run off slowly but ran the sparge at regular intervals at a higher volume just to keep the water above the grainbed? Only at a high rate would the sparge arm spin..
That's what I do. Gives me something to do while drinking/sparging

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopherhockey
What is the timing I should be shooting for with a 5 gal. batch? I figured about 20-30 minutes.
I shoot for 90 minutes. Slow is good with fly sparging.

-a


ajf is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2006, 01:23 PM   #3
gopherhockey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Rosemount, MN
Posts: 23
Default

I think part of my problem was that I put too much water in my mash, and possibly because it was a wheat beer?

The runoff was very very light... not thick at all. I could see a thicker runoff allowing for more time. None of it looked thick.
__________________
Primary: Double Bock
Secondary: Bock, Chardonnay
Conditioning in Bottles: Kölsch
In Keg: Kölsch, Phat Tyre Ale
Bottled: German Alt, St. Paul Porter
On Deck: Hoegaarden Clone
gopherhockey is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2006, 04:47 PM   #4
Mikey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: I'm gone!
Posts: 668
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

What kind of sparge arm have you got? Mine spins quite quickly and takes 60 minutes for 24 liters to go through.

Mikey is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2006, 05:04 PM   #5
DesertBrew
You're not my type
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
DesertBrew's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 5,637
Liked 104 Times on 92 Posts
Likes Given: 221

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gopherhockey

Should I have instead let it run off slowly but ran the sparge at regular intervals at a higher volume just to keep the water above the grainbed? Only at a high rate would the sparge arm spin.

What is the timing I should be shooting for with a 5 gal. batch? I figured about 20-30 minutes.
Correct - I sparge for about 45-60 minutes and you basically need to micro manage a bit the sparge arm. I'd also take gravity readings since you're new to the process when you get to about 4 gallons just to see how the sparge is doing. You should quit after you get below 1.010 or have enough wort rinsed for your boil. Another final gravity check of your captured wort to check efficiency of your mash/sparge as well.

DesertBrew is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2006, 05:54 PM   #6
MrSaLTy
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MrSaLTy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 448
Liked 10 Times on 8 Posts

Default

An important thing to remember if you are taking gravity reading of runoff is to compensate for temperture. If your runnoff is still pretty hot, your hydro readings will be a lot lower then they would be at 60 degress which is what the hydrometer is usually calibrated at.
__________________
PRIMARY: Air
SECONDARY#1: Air
SECONDARY#2: Air
On Tap: Air
Keg Conditioning: Air
Bottle stock:
Next Up: dunno yet
--------------------
My Homebrew Stirplate
My eHERMS and home brewery build
MrSaLTy is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2006, 10:50 PM   #7
ajf
Senior Member
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
ajf's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Long Island
Posts: 4,643
Liked 103 Times on 97 Posts
Likes Given: 39

Default

I've never had a brew where the initial few quarts of run-off was not thick, and this weeks brew took over two hours to sparge with the spigot wide open.
Could it be that your grain was not crushed sufficiently? That could explain the symptoms.

-a.
ajf is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2006, 04:10 AM   #8
Lost
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 606
Liked 7 Times on 6 Posts

Default

You're sparging too fast. Your efficiency would definitely benefit from some slower sparging.

While I think the fancy spinning sparge arms are cool, I don't think it's essential that they spin (mine's attached to the top of the cooler FYI) but I understand that it would be nice to have the thing work as it's supposed to.

Keep a good inch or two above the grainbed at all times. Check periodically to make sure you're not getting too far ahead or behind the drain rate. The way I see it, having a bit too much water in there is better than not enough.


Lost is offline
 
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sparging question beer_master Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 09-11-2009 04:57 PM
Fly Sparging flow rate? sstenger All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 23 02-27-2009 06:28 PM
Question about pitch rate bgcoving All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 3 08-01-2008 01:42 PM
Fly Sparging Question thebull All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 5 09-17-2007 03:49 PM
Fermentation rate question ian Extract Brewing 8 01-03-2006 07:14 PM


Forum Jump

Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS