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Old 11-13-2008, 06:15 PM   #1
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A couple of months ago, I posted a thread about how I felt some of my batches were turning a bit sour after about 2 months in bottles.
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f37/turning-twangy-79139/

I kind of decided that I was just being paranoid, and carried on. The only thing different I did was switch to Starsan instead of OneStep for sanitizer. I have always used Oxyclean as a cleaner.

Well, I am obviously still doing something wrong. Here's why:
1. An IPA I made, again after about two months in the bottle, all the bottles turned into quasi-gushers (I say quasi b/c, when you would uncap them, they wouldn't just spurt out, after about 30 seconds, they would slowly foam over - tasted fine, though).

2. I made a ginger flavored amber that tasted great coming out the secondary, but after bottle conditioning, tasted distinctly smoky instead of gingery. I read in a book (Homebrew's Answer Book, Ashton Lewis) that unexpected smoky flavors are likely from wild yeast in air). Also, I made this recipe before, and there was no smoky taste.

3. I racked my first all grain batch into the secondary last week. After racking, I noticed some unexpected activity. No airlock activity, but a lot of moving around inside carboy and some foaming. The foaming keeps stopping and reappearing. Now, there are some spider looking things encrusted on the carboy (see picture below).

I have read a ton of threads related to infections, and one of the main answers seems to be replace my tubing. Anything else I should consider? Should I replaced my airlocks/bungs, bottling bucket, bottling wand, and spigot, too? I assume my glass carboys are ok, or am I wrong?

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Old 11-13-2008, 06:19 PM   #2
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Switching from onestep and replacing all your tubing are good things...also take apart any spigots you have and clean them thoroughly (bottling bucket and things like that.)

Or replace them....same with the autosiphon and bottling wand...you should at least take them apart and clean throoughly or replace them as well.

Make sure there are no scratches on any plastic that touches your beer (bottling bucket and fermenters) they can harbor, and the sanitizer won't be enough.


Racking to secondary will normally kick up some fermentation, so that just might be a wee bit of fermentation in the neck of your carboy...it's hard to tell in the pic...
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:24 PM   #3
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This picture might be a bit more illustrative. I should add that I found this weird, dark brown, flat stuff in the trub when I racked the all grain batch. The weird stuff looked like a bunch of tiny beads.


 
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:35 PM   #4
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Since you said that it was AG, maybe it was proteins.

 
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:38 PM   #5
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How are you bottling, are you going straight from your spigot, tubing, raking cane or a bottle filler?
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:42 PM   #6
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The close up doesn't look like an infection just CO2 bubbles with some lacing on the neck.
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:47 PM   #7
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How are you bottling, are you going straight from your spigot, tubing, raking cane or a bottle filler?
Spigot to tube to bottling wand.

 
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This picture might be a bit more illustrative. I should add that I found this weird, dark brown, flat stuff in the trub when I racked the all grain batch. The weird stuff looked like a bunch of tiny beads.


That looks like a combination of starsan bubbles and the stuff on the neck looks like dried krauzen after the small fermentation occrued and it fell....
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This picture might be a bit more illustrative. I should add that I found this weird, dark brown, flat stuff in the trub when I racked the all grain batch. The weird stuff looked like a bunch of tiny beads.

Wow!!! That thing is full. Hopefully you won't have a overly violent fermentation.

 
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I believe he said it's his secondary.....
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