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Old 11-02-2008, 08:53 AM   #1
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For the mash: do you add your grain or strike water first, and for what reason(s)?

 
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Old 11-02-2008, 09:56 AM   #2
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I put water in first, and let mashtun adjust and settle temp .. then, when I knaow I am where I want to be in temp (usually 164), I add the grains ...


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Old 11-02-2008, 10:00 AM   #3
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I think it's down to personal preference.

I think it's easier to stir the grain up into the water than the grain down into the water.
Does that make sense?

I put the grain in and then the water.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:08 PM   #4
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I heat the water to STRIKE + 10F... then pump it over into my MLT. I let it sit in there a few minutes to heat the MLT, it then cools to my strike temp, so when the thermometer shows the proper temp, I dump in half my grain bill.... stir well, breaking up dough balls. Then I dump in the second half of the grain bill, again mixing well. Tighten the lid on the cooler, crack the valve on the MLT and start to recirculate through the HERMS.

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Old 11-02-2008, 01:22 PM   #5
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Water first, grain second.

 
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:28 PM   #6
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I add the strike water plus 10 degrees and let it sit for 10 minutes to preheat the MLT. I don't lose any heat through a 60 minute mash using a 10 gallon Rubbermaid cooler.....

 
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:25 PM   #7
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I think it's down to personal preference.
+1.

I used to add the grist to the water. Now I just dump it in the mash tun and pump the strike water over to the mash tun, stirring and breaking up any dough balls (usually none).

 
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Old 11-02-2008, 02:43 PM   #8
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I put the grain in first then add the water mixing well. I used to add grain to water but when I started adding water to grain my efficiency went up from 65-70 to 85%.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:11 PM   #9
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I put the grain in first then add the water mixing well. I used to add grain to water but when I started adding water to grain my efficiency went up from 65-70 to 85%.

I dont understand how either method would result in a difference in eff. Did you change anything else? Water to grain, or grain to water, should not affect your eff. in the very least.

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Old 11-02-2008, 03:16 PM   #10
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I put in about 1/2-1 gallon of the hot water in the bottom, then put the grain in on top of that, and then pour the rest of the water in over the grain. The reason I do it that way, is since I started doing that I haven't had stuck or slow sparges, it drains nice and quickly. If I just put the grain in first and then the water then I end up having to stick sticks in the spout or blow air up the spout to get it unstuck so it drains.

 
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