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Old 10-25-2008, 12:24 AM   #1
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I don't have any DME on hand and want to reuse some Wyeast (#1272 American ale II). Some Googling brought up various pages mentioning the use of Malta (that sickly sweet, Latino soft drink that is essentially unfermented wort) and I gave it a shot.
Last night, I poured a 12 ounce bottle into a pyrex flask and added about 10 or so ounces of preboiled, cooled water. Then I poured in the saved yeast (along with some trub that was in the beer bottle) and let it go. It's got a nice thin layer of krausen on it now, less than 24 hours later. No unusual smells.
Brew day is tomorrow or Sunday and this seems ready to pitch.

The Malta cost me $0.50 at the supermarket.
Anyone else ever try this?

 
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:19 AM   #2
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Nope. Never tried it. I know the product you speak of. I don't know the ingredients off-hand... Let us know how it works for you.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:20 AM   #3
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Heard of it but never tried it. Let us know how the beer turns out. Sounds like a good alternative to DME for making a starter in a pinch.

 
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:25 AM   #4
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I have a six pack in the closet waiting for when I culture the bottle yeast from a couple of Rogue bombers. I'm not patient enough to boil three separate batches of DME wort to make a single starter.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:05 AM   #5
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I've used it once, gonna probably use it again this weekend.
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:34 AM   #6
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Wow, this is a really good idea. I always make starters but I HATE the whole process. This would be super easy...and cheap.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:19 AM   #7
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Wow, this is a really good idea. I always make starters but I HATE the whole process. This would be super easy...and cheap.
The actuall preparation of the starter wort only takes like 20 minutes. If you hate the whole process, buy more yeast. This stuff only has the advantage of being easier to get.

I have heard of people using this stuff for their starters with good results, so I bet it will be fine. I personally would still boil the stuff for at least 15 minutes for the same reason I boil DME for 15 minutes, because no telling what kind of bacteria could possibly be present, and an infected starter means an infected batch of beer.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:32 AM   #8
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The actuall preparation of the starter wort only takes like 20 minutes.
How do you prepare a starter wort in 20 minutes? Granted, it's neither difficult nor especially time consuming. But it takes me about 45 minutes to make a starter wort for a ten gallon brew. Ten minutes to bring 2 quarts of water plus 1/2 pound of DME to a boil. Fifteen minutes boil time. Twenty minutes to cool the wort down in a sink full of ice water. I'd like to know how you manage it in 20 minutes.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:37 AM   #9
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I use Malta Goya quite often for my starters. I have a fantastic ethnic grocery store not too far away. I always pick up some Malta Goya!

 
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:43 AM   #10
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How do you prepare a starter wort in 20 minutes? Granted, it's neither difficult nor especially time consuming. But it takes me about 45 minutes to make a starter wort for a ten gallon brew. Ten minutes to bring 2 quarts of water plus 1/2 pound of DME to a boil. Fifteen minutes boil time. Twenty minutes to cool the wort down in a sink full of ice water. I'd like to know how you manage it in 20 minutes.
OK, maybe 25, I wasn't considering the time it takes to bring the water to a boil. 5 minutes to bring to a boil, 15 boiling, 5 to cool off to pitching temp, and I also use 1/2lb in 2qt. I don't know, maybe it's because I use a really nice pot that transfers heat well, but I can make a starter real quick while waiting on SWMBO to finish her makeup or something, so I don't see it as that much time or work.
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