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Old 10-23-2008, 01:29 PM   #11
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I have not made any stout kits yet (a porter is my next batch and I will move up to a stout next), but I am very familiar with the BJ's Brewery stout you mentioned. It is a sweet stout IMO - not like a Guiness Stout. More of chocolate/coffee overtones and not a bitter bite.

Maybe someone out there familiar with the better stout kits can use this info to help track a similar kit down.
beeradvocate says the tatonka is an RIS, which should have some level of hop bitterness present. HotTrailer, are you looking for a partial mash recipe or a extract with steeping grains recipe? Also are you capable of doing full boils or only partial boils?

If partial mash then give NukeBrewer's recipe a shot. What he means by side "wort" is a hop tea. When you boil hops in a wort with a high gravity, such as an RIS, the percent of the alpha acids that get isomerized decreases, so to prevent this you boil the hops in only water in a second pot so you get the full bittering effect you need for an RIS. Just keep in mind an RIS is a big beer, its going to take a lot of yeast, and a longer time than a normal stout to be "ready"

Edit: After reading brewtools post and the link I would consider subbing some Black patent and crystal malts for the biscuit, I was going to suggest this before but I'm not a fan of biscuit so didn't want to be biased.



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Old 10-23-2008, 01:34 PM   #12
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BJ's rates this beer as an Russian Imperial Stout with an ABV of 8% and to my taste it has quite a bit of caramel sweetness along with some raisin/plum fruit notes from Crystal 120L or Special B with a nice roasty bite.

Midwest has some excellent kits and I know Austin Homebrew Shop has some good kits as well. Maybe give them a call and see what they recommend if you can't get that information at your LHBS.


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Old 10-23-2008, 01:54 PM   #13
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Thanks for the info everyone. I'll take a look at the other forum too.


Jomarky- I have steeped grains, but haven't done partial mash yet. And i can full boil.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:25 PM   #14
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That recipe in the link looks good, its all-grain so if you need help converting it to extract just let me know.
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Old 10-23-2008, 02:48 PM   #15
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If you father could stand a good chocolate/coffee stout, I would recommend this one, created by user McAustin. I brewed it and am very happy with it.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:43 PM   #16
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i believe he means to use a late addition on the extracts, usually 15min left in boil.
Well, what I meant was, to boil about 1/4 lb of extract in 1 gallon of water in a different pot to get better hop utilization, but the extract late method would work too. I'm not sure which is more effective, though.
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Old 10-31-2008, 11:44 PM   #17
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Well I reread all the suggestions and then asked my dad what flavors he likes in the stout. His answer was chocoloate, so i decided to try AHS Double Chocolate Stout. We'll be brewing that one up on sunday, and i think i might put McAustin's recipe in my folder for later. Thanks again
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Austin Home Brew's sam smith oatmeal stout clone is excellent. I will make that one again.
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I just cracked open a bottle of the Double Chocolate Stout from Austin Homebrew Supply, MMMM was it good. My dad loved it too. Thanks Forrest, i'll definitely be purchasing some more kits from you.
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yum.
if you have a bottle of that laying about, I'll swap it for a bottle of my Terminator Stout clone


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