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Old 10-22-2008, 08:27 PM   #1
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I bought a 1 gal glass jug to ferment in to try out apfelwien. The yeast I picked up is Red Star Pasteur Champagne in a 5 gram dry pack. Will this be too much to pitch into the 1 gal of juice?

Also, should I add any sugar (light brown specifically b/c thats what I have)? The guy at LHBS was fairly busy so I didn't get to ask as many questions as I would have liked.

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Old 10-22-2008, 08:32 PM   #2
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I wouldsput roughly 1/5 of the yeast in. Just guesstimate it. It will be fine. I also would beg or borrow a hydrometer and add enough sugar to bring it up to 1.060
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:41 PM   #3
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Thanks Rugenbrau,

I actually have a hygrometer, so I'll be sure check it before I pitch the yeast.

I know it varies.... but what gravity would a typical apple juice be?

And how much sugar would it take to get it to 1.060 ish?

I don't know if we're talking a teaspoon or cup or what.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:53 PM   #4
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The juice I buy is usually between 1.050-1.060. It depends what they are pressing that day. I figure ,and this is a guesstimate, 4 1/2 oz a gal to raise it .010. What I would do, is just add a little at a time,say a quarter of a cup, and keep taking readings. It's easy to put in, but you you can't take it out!
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:59 PM   #5
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Sounds good. What is the best way to put it in and get it mixed up? There probably won't be much room in either the jug or the fermenter. Will I have to pour out some into the fermenter, add sugar and shake, and then recombine to get a reading?

Also, I got some yeast nutrient today... should that go into the juice, or into the yeast rehydration water?
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:38 PM   #6
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add the yeast nutrient to the juice when you pitch the yeast. As to the sugar, It depends on the amount of head space in your jug. I usually add it to my carboy and stir it as I fill it to make sure it gets dissolved. you can pour some into a bowl and dissolve it there and pour it back in. Just make sure you get it dissolved
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:40 PM   #7
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If it's only 5g, just put the whole packet into it.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:52 PM   #8
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Sounds good. I'm off to find some apple juice.

A couple more rookie questions....

Will I need to use a blow off tube?

Appx. how long will this take before ready for bottling?

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Cider doesn't usually blow off. Expect 6-9 weeks before you can bottle. It takes a long time to clear.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:53 PM   #10
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So I think I did alright at the store. I got two 1/2 gallons of unfiltered apple juice / cider whatever you want to call it, in nice glass jugs. I think they will make nice test batch fermenters. This stuff is 100% nothing added.

Then I went to Target to get a funnel that the grocery didn't have and they had a gallon of regular Motts apple juice for $4.09. This juice has ascorbic acid.

The 1/2 gals were only 2.99 each. A pretty good deal I think considering they come packaged in mini fermenters, and I just spent 5 bucks on an empty gallon fermenter. I need to go back to LHBS and get two more stoppers and air locks.

I was hoping to get started tonight but I'm going to wait and do it all at once tomorrow.

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