Aerating - Home Brew Forums
Register Now For Free!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Beginners Beer Brewing Forum > Aerating

Thread Tools
Old 10-15-2008, 02:03 AM   #1
Aug 2008
Posts: 97
Liked 3 Times on 2 Posts

I am going to use a yeast starter plus yeast nutrients. Is Aerating that important?

Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2008, 02:04 AM   #2
Sep 2008
Posts: 24

everything i've read suggests that simply shaking your wort before pitching is sufficient aeration. if you're using a yeast starter with a bunch of cells, you'll be fine.

Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2008, 02:15 AM   #3
Sep 2008
Billings MT
Posts: 41

Aerating is important for healthy yeast. You don't need anything fancy, you can simply shake your fermenter up for a bit or sanitize a whisk or spoon and use that or splash the wort around as you pour it from boil kettle to fermenter.

Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2008, 02:20 AM   #4
Beer Maniac
SenorWanderer's Avatar
Aug 2007
Posts: 592
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

if you define aerating as dissolving oxygen in the wort, then aerating is very important. what would happen to you if you hit the weight room hard, ate really healthy all the time, and then had to play an entire basketball game with no oxygen?! when you pitch your yeast they start in with aerobic reproduction, eating up all the nutrients and oxygen, reproducing and growing strong, but not producing alcohol yet. once they've run out of oxygen they go into their anaerobic phase when they begin to produce alcohol. the stronger and and healthier and the more yeast you have when they run out of oxygen then the better the alcohol production phase goes. like citizenlee said, shaking for 5-10 minutes will be just fine for introducing oxygen to your wort.

Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2008, 08:44 AM   #5
Oct 2008
Isla Vista, CA (Santa Barbara)
Posts: 142
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

I was under the impression that if you pitch a TON of healthy yeast that aeration isn't even really necessary? Wouldn't that lead to quicker fermentations as you'd skip the aerobic reproduction phase? I'm a newb, not preachin just askin...

Reply With Quote
Old 10-15-2008, 12:58 PM   #6
Bob's Avatar
Nov 2007
Christiansted, St Croix, USVI, US Virgin Islands
Posts: 3,927
Liked 142 Times on 105 Posts

If you pitch enough yeast to reach the saturation point - where the aerobic phase ends and the anaerobic phase begins - I suppose you could omit aeration. But that's kind of stupid, because it's more painstaking work to grow such a large starter than it is to just aerate the wort. Oxygen dissolved in the wort is an essential nutrient for the yeast in the aerobic (reproductive) phase of fermentation.

Moreover, here's a bit of interesting stuff from George Fix:

Oxygen and diacetyl are linked [...]. Hoffmann has shown that inadequate oxygenation of chilled wort can lead to elevated diacetyl levels. In one of his test brews, the dissolved oxygen content of chilled wort was a mere 0.80 mg/L. The second brew had 10 times that amount (8.0 mg/L), which is a widely used value. To achieve this level of oxygenation, one typically must saturate chilled wort with direct oxygen injection. Hoffmann reported that after the seventh day of fermentation, the poorly oxygenated wort had a diacetyl level of 0.80 mg/L, whereas the level in the second brew was down to 0.20 mg/L.*

Keep in mind the detection threshold for diacetyl is 0.10 mg/L. So the lower the oxygenation rate, the greater the amount of diacetyl - a byproduct of fermentation - in the finished beer. In some beers, a significant amount of diacetyl is acceptable; in most, it is not. Further, diacetyl tends to be unstable. It will devolve from the butterscotch flavors to rancid, raunchy flavors over time.

There are other reasons to avoid overpitching. Foremost is that yeast develop the majority of their flavor-precursor esters during the aerobic phase. That's why underpitching is so undesirable: even in a fruity British ale style, underpitching leads to excessive ester production, because the yeast overwork themselves during the aerobic phase, just reproducing enough cells - and if the underpitch is too bad, they'll never reproduce enough - to properly saturate the wort. In the same manner, overpitching is bad: pitch sufficient yeast to skip the aerobic phase, and the yeast will never produce detectable esters. Bad news for English and Belgian ales.

According to White Labs, overpitching can lead to underattenuation.

If you pitch the appropriate amount of yeast into a properly aerated cool wort, your lag time will be within specification and your beer will suffer no indignity. If you take shortcuts hoping to skip steps, you'll only be back here in a few weeks asking us why things went wrong.

It's best just to follow the accepted brewing procedure. It's there for a reason, and you skip steps at your peril.



* BrewingTechniques, July/August 1993.
Fort Christian Brewpub
St Croix, US Virgin Islands

Reply With Quote
Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Over-Aerating? sloosky Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 8 02-19-2009 04:15 PM
Aerating hot wort Hikeon3 General Techniques 6 06-19-2008 09:21 PM
aerating for AG oguss0311 General Techniques 28 03-05-2008 04:45 PM
Top Tip for Aerating Orfy General Beer Discussion 32 01-12-2007 10:51 PM
aerating yeast, how long after pitched should you still be aerating ? merkaba Extract Brewing 11 09-11-2006 12:54 PM

Forum Jump