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Old 10-03-2008, 08:10 PM   #11
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For lager yeasts, you really can pitch up to 75-80, but you don't want to keep it there for too long, or you will wind up with a fruity lager. I have found that it really is best to pitch lager yeasts at or very near the fermentation temperature. Some folks pitch a little below that, letting the temperature rise up to fermentation temperature, and claim very good results. Yooper is one I can think of that has talked about that practice. I haven't tried it, but I probably will with my next lager.

On the water or the vodka or the cleaning solution, it shouldn't be a problem, although I don't know what you clean with, krc. Water will work fine in your airlock, though. If it doesn't, someone will have to tell me how I've been getting all this beer all these years.


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Old 10-03-2008, 08:42 PM   #12
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What do you use? Star-san is supposedly more-or-less yeast nutrient when diluted, so that's fine. Water, even really nasty water, works fine as an airlock fluid, but can be bad (particularly if really nasty) if it gets sucked back into the wort. Idophor, diluted for use, dispersed over 5 gallons is not likely to be a problem, barring some sort of iodine sensitivity. Bleach-water could cause some off-tastes.

So-cheap-you're-embarrassed-to-buy-it vodka has some active ability to kill stuff that gets into it, and causes no harm if sucked back, which is why I use it, but it's not the only thing that works.

On the subject of nasty water as an airlock, Louis Pasteur's book on beer has some powerful reading....

Internet Archive: Details: Studies on fermentation : the diseases of beer, their causes, and the means of preventing them

See page 340 for the fermenter and 342 for the "putrid water" comment.
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:36 AM   #13
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Ok, the bubbles I saw earlier today, were literally just two bubbles and I haven't seen anymore since.. I'm fairly certain it was too hot when I pitched the yeast originally, I think from what I've read that I probably killed it.

Can I salvage this batch by pitching some more yeast in? What kind of an affect would that give me at this point?

 
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:44 AM   #14
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Give it another day and see if it takes off (yeast are hardy little buggers). If not, you can re-pitch now that you are down to a good temperature. I'd recommend using the same type of yeast and you should be fine.
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Old 10-04-2008, 02:49 AM   #15
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I did almost the exact same thing on my first batch. My fermentation seemed like it was done after 24 hours. It wasn't, of course, but it seemed like it. After 1 week in the primary, 2 weeks in the secondary, and 3 weeks in the bottle, my ale tastes fine (enjoying one right now as a matter of fact). No doubt that there is some "hotness" present, but very drinkable nonetheless.

 
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Old 10-04-2008, 03:25 AM   #16
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Chances are you'll be OK. Get that temp down and just let it go for 3 weeks(secondaries are overrated in my book). The most important lesson from this is that you learn that fermentation temps are very important and will have big effects on your final product. That being said, it's your first and you'll love it. Also, do a starter next time if you didn't. It will help the yeast get going.
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:31 AM   #17
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Well I still haven't seen anymore activity.. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow morning and then pick up some more yeast I guess. This is the kind that came with my kit, I just opened the packet and poured it in and then stirred it, while steam was still rising up, lol.



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Old 10-04-2008, 10:36 AM   #18
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Well I still haven't seen anymore activity.. I'm gonna wait till tomorrow morning and then pick up some more yeast I guess. This is the kind that came with my kit, I just opened the packet and poured it in and then stirred it, while steam was still rising up, lol.



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Old 10-11-2008, 08:54 PM   #19
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I noticed Irish said he spilled some of the water from his airlock into the wort. I did the same thing and I always put a little bit of the cleaning solution in my airlock (will start using cheap vodka) , because I was told water won’t work. Anyway, will that little bit of solution kill my beer and or make anyone that drinks it sick?
I always use Vodka in the airlock. Before I siphon, I'll do a mouthful of vodka, swish it around, and then let it dribble out over my lips.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:17 AM   #20
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IrishIwereDrunk, any luck? It is pretty hard to kill the yeast, but higher temps can do it. Did you re-pitch? Did your original yeast 'come to life'?
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