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Old 09-29-2008, 08:19 PM   #1
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I just wanted to post this, because i didnt know it, and thought I might share, just incase you didnt know it.

When I clean my beer lines after a keg I do the following, and the lines always run clear, or seemingly clean with no aftertaste in the next beer.
1) rinse lines with HOT water.
2) rinse with oxi-clean free
3) rinse with hot water
4) rinse with Star-San, and let sit in line till I serve from that tap again.

Here's what I did different this time.
1) rinse with hot water
2) Rinse with oxi-clean free
3) rinse with hot water
4) rinse and let sit for 15 minutes BLC and cleaned taps.
5) rinsed with cold water
this time when I rinsed yellow gunk came out from the beer line, even though it ran clear with hot water and oxi-clean. When I clean a tap and line its RIGHT after a keg is floated, so it never sits there empty without being cleaned.
6) rinsed with Star-San.

I was really shocked at how I THOUGHT I was cleaning the beer line, but not doing as well as a job as I could be with using BLC.

Anyways, you all probably know this, but though I would share my experience.

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Old 09-29-2008, 08:22 PM   #2
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What kind of line cleaner do you use? I could probably use some
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:36 PM   #3
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What kind of line cleaner do you use? I could probably use some
BLC = "Beer Line Cleaner" BLC is the Brand name

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Old 09-29-2008, 10:43 PM   #4
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I like BLC and Micro Matic's Clean Flo powder. I half suspect Clean Flo is very similar if not the same as PBW.

 
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:01 AM   #5
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I like BLC and Micro Matic's Clean Flo powder. I half suspect Clean Flo is very similar if not the same as PBW.
+1, I prefer the powder. When using a real beer line cleaner you don't need to use any other product other than water.

 
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:16 PM   #6
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If you have an infected line, speaking from experience, running StarSan through the line is NOT enough to solve the problem as Sherpa said. The bacteria are sticky and grow in colonies and while the StarSan will kill most of them, some that are in the middle of the colony will be protected by their dead brethren. StarSan doe not do a good job of loosening up the sticky colonies. BLC however is very good at unstickifying the colonies. My procedure is to hit the lines with BLC, then a water rinse (a requirement, not a suggestion, as the akaline nature of BLC will negate the sanitizing action of StarSan), then the StarSan, followed by more water. Also, take apart the tap and clean that too, even BLC and StarSan treatment isn't enough to get rid of the bacteria, again speaking from experience.
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Old 09-30-2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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If you have an infected line, speaking from experience, running StarSan through the line is NOT enough to solve the problem as Sherpa said. The bacteria are sticky and grow in colonies and while the StarSan will kill most of them, some that are in the middle of the colony will be protected by their dead brethren. StarSan doe not do a good job of loosening up the sticky colonies. BLC however is very good at unstickifying the colonies. My procedure is to hit the lines with BLC, then a water rinse (a requirement, not a suggestion, as the akaline nature of BLC will negate the sanitizing action of StarSan), then the StarSan, followed by more water. Also, take apart the tap and clean that too, even BLC and StarSan treatment isn't enough to get rid of the bacteria, again speaking from experience.
Why do you rinse with water after flushing with starsan? Isn't that defeating the purpose of it being no-rinse?

 
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Why do you rinse with water after flushing with starsan? Isn't that defeating the purpose of it being no-rinse?
Yes it is. It is absolutely unnecessary to run starsan through beer lines. Many people may do it, but it's still unnecessary.

 
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:10 PM   #9
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Bacterial biofilms are amazingly tough and unless a cleaner is designed to dissolve them OR you scrub, the little buggers will just snug down & laugh.
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Old 10-01-2008, 04:10 AM   #10
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Bacterial biofilms? I can understand people being anal about sanitizing their fermenters. And I can see sanitizing bottles and cornys. But regular cleaning of the beer lines, coupler and faucet should keep the bogeyman at bay. I'm just sayin'...

 
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