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Old 09-17-2008, 07:20 PM   #1
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Hey all -

I'm interested in creating an Eisbock out of a barleywine I'm planning on making. Has anyone ever had any experiences doing such a thing? Thoughts on freezing process??

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Old 09-17-2008, 07:21 PM   #2
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Hot Dave? Please, I'm blushing.

 
Old 09-17-2008, 07:26 PM   #3
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Hair of the Dog Dave. Hehehe.

 
Old 09-17-2008, 07:35 PM   #4
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Man, your avatar gives me the shivers every time I see it, JustDave.

No idea on the eisbock technique, I know that removing more than a certain (rather marginal) percentage is not legal, technically, and because of this information is a little scarce. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in the how-to part of this. For... educational purposes only, of course.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:38 PM   #5
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If you live in the US it is technically illegal to make a traditional eisbock due to the freeze distillation process employed. This thread will likely be locked when a mod sees it for this very reason.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:55 PM   #6
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Man, your avatar gives me the shivers every time I see it, JustDave.
Look who's talking, Chriso! Your avatar gives me the heebie geebies.

I don't know if a traditional Eisbock involving freeze distillation can be done in the US (doubtful) but it may be legal in places that allow distillation.

As I see it, an Eisbock is a bock (lager) and I'm not sure simply making a stronger barley wine will give you an Eisbock. The BJCP guidelines call it an "extremely strong full and malty dark lager". Totally different than a barley wine. Here are the BJCP guidelines: BJCP 2008 Style Guidelines - Category 05
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:33 PM   #7
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I just checked the Wisconsin statues (125) and cannot find a definitive answer as to whether or not Eisbock would or would not be legal. All signs point to legality.

this is 125.06 (3)
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(3) HOMEMADE WINE OR FERMENTED MALT BEVERAGES. The
manufacture of wine or fermented malt beverages of any alcoholic
content by any person at his or her home, farm or place of residence
if the wine or fermented malt beverages is to be consumed
by that person or his or her family and guests, and if the person
manufacturing the wine or fermented malt beverages receives no
compensation.
It also defines wine as any beverage with between 0.5% and 21% ABV. I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who was knit picky enough to say yes it is a fermented beverage, but you froze it and some of the water was removed.

There is no mention in the statues about home distilling (or being a home rectifier according tot he definitions).

Also, WI has no homebrewing limit!

 
Old 09-17-2008, 08:40 PM   #8
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I just checked the Wisconsin statues (125) and cannot find a definitive answer as to whether or not Eisbock would or would not be legal. All signs point to legality.

this is 125.06 (3)


It also defines wine as any beverage with between 0.5% and 21% ABV. I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who was knit picky enough to say yes it is a fermented beverage, but you froze it and some of the water was removed.

There is no mention in the statues about home distilling (or being a home rectifier according tot he definitions).

Also, WI has no homebrewing limit!
however, it is totally illegal to concentrate alcohol in any way shape or form in the United states. This includes freeze distillation, this topic has been discussed before on this board.
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Old 09-17-2008, 08:47 PM   #9
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Interesting read.

While it is probably illegal to make an Eisbock traditionally, it's one of those things that no one needs to know about. I don't specifically see a law prohibiting you from transferring your beer into another container if it "inadvertantly" gets frozen.
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however, it is totally illegal to concentrate alcohol in any way shape or form in the United states. This includes freeze distillation, this topic has been discussed before on this board.
Double-damn! I need to look into that thread. Not that I will ever distill anything anyway, but I wish it was an option.

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