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Old 09-15-2008, 10:24 PM   #1
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SWMBO is a HUGE fan of the HUB Survival Stout and of course has been begging for me to brew something similar. Website lists:

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Beer of the Ancients! Barley (Egyptian), Wheat (Mesopotamian), Oats (Egyptian), Amaranth (Aztec), Quinoa (Incan), Spelt (Mesopotamian), and Kamut (Egyptian)
I've seen the Amaranth, Quinoa, Spelt, Kamut at local stores around town. Can I use these, or do they need to be malted?

 
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Old 09-15-2008, 10:43 PM   #2
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You should be able to use them unmalted. You will have to conduct a cereal boil to gelatinize the starches and free them for the malt's enzymes. Just boil them according to their instructions and add the result to the main mash.

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Old 09-16-2008, 03:32 PM   #3
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Thanks Bob. Anyone have any thoughts on quantities of these grains?

 
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:11 AM   #4
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just had one last night (and several other great winter beers today at Amnesia). I was thinking of trying a stout like this as well. I'll bet Christian at HUB would probably tell you or at least point you in the right direction.

 
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:41 AM   #5
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Nah, don't ask Christian. He's an elitist *******, only interested in himself. Anybody who knows him knows that.
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Old 12-14-2008, 08:12 PM   #6
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I'm hoping the above was a joke, cause I actually did end up speaking with him about the stout. Though we didn't go into exact details, our conversation was helpful.

I was even able to swing by and grab some yeast from them as well.

 
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:11 PM   #7
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that's interesting - all of my interactions with anyone at HUB have been no less than positive.

Did he give you any tips? I am interested in doing something along those lines. And the free yeast? That is pretty cool. Wonder what strain they use?

 
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:51 PM   #8
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He said they use 1028 (london ale) for all their brews.

I'd have to go back and dig out my notes for the brew session, but he suggested starting out with the cereal mash being about 10% of your entire grain bill. Also they get an OG of about 1.060.

 
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Old 12-15-2008, 05:23 AM   #9
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Dude.... I'm kidding guys. Christian is awesome. HE's one of the cooler brewers I've ever met.
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:20 PM   #10
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good to know - I thought that sounded a bit strange.

BTW - how is the clone coming along?

 
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