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Old 09-10-2008, 11:31 AM   #1
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I found an ESB recipe online and due to the hop shortage I went with the home brew store recommendation for the hop replacements, here is the recipe for a 5 Gallon batch.
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Ingredients:
0.25 lb American Caramel 20L
0.25 lb Special Roast Malt
10.0 lb Maris Otter Pale
1.0 lb Barley Flaked
1.0 oz Fuggle (4.8%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 min
1.0 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30.0 min
1.0 oz Nugget (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 10.0 min
1.0 ea WYeast 1098 British Ale
Can someone give me some good mash temps and the amount of time needed for this style? Usually the recipe has this included, but this one did not.
Or any suggestions altering the above recipe as I plan to brew this one next month.

 
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:15 PM   #2
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You'll want to mash fairly high, 154 F for an hour should work, in order to get a bit more body in the finished beer. The recipe looks pretty good but I'm questioning the Nugget hops addition with 10 minutes left in the boil. Nugget is usually a bittering hop and not really in the style of ESBs.
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:17 PM   #3
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You might check the order of the hop additions; those look off to me. Generally Fuggles is used as an aroma hop (later addition) and a high alpha hop (i.e., 13%) is used for bittering at 60.

Also, not sure about the pound of flaked barley.

edit: KB beat me to it....

 
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Old 09-10-2008, 12:40 PM   #4
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It does indeed look like the bittering is reversed. You may want to check the IBU's though with the Nugget, Fuggle and Willamette in that order. You could do either the Willamette or the Fuggle as your last addition. I'd go for the Fuggle as the flavor addition. And yes, mash around 154, you'll probably convert in less than a 1/2 hr. but have your Iodine handy to be sure. The flaked Barley should add mouthfeel or so they say, I personally never use it.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:14 PM   #5
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I, too, would question the hop schedule. I'd also question the use of Nugget hops at all. If they are available, try Challenger for your bittering addition. They are higher AA than most British hops (6.5-8.5%) and fit the ESB profile better than Nugget, which BYO calls "Quite heavy and herbal." Failing that, I'd still use something more neutral for your bittering addition. Galena, Magnum or Warrior should be available.

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Old 09-10-2008, 01:38 PM   #6
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expanding upon the hop suggestions, you're already getting all you IBUs from the fuggles and willamete, the nugget aren't providing much bitterness being added so late. just use another oz of fuggles in the nugget's place. if you can't get more fuggles, then east kent goldings, styrian goldings and willamete should all work well in an ESB too. Or you could use Target for bittering (you'd probably only need .5-.75 oz. for the same IBU) and move the fuggles to the 10 minute spot.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:41 PM   #7
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use .25 oz-.50 oz of Nugget for bittering and use fuggles/willamette for flavor & aroma.
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Old 09-10-2008, 01:51 PM   #8
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If you are interested, in the current issue of Zymurgy (Sept/Oct) there is an article written by John Keeling (brewing director at Fuller) about brewing ESB. It is a good read.

 
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:36 PM   #9
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Code:
Ingredients:
0.25 lb American Caramel 20L
0.25 lb Special Roast Malt
10.0 lb Maris Otter Pale
1.0 lb Barley Flaked
1.0 oz Fuggle (4.8%) - added during boil, boiled 60.0 min
1.0 oz Willamette (5.0%) - added during boil, boiled 30.0 min
1.0 oz Nugget (13.0%) - added during boil, boiled 10.0 min
1.0 ea WYeast 1098 British Ale
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The original recipe called for 
1.0 oz East Kent Golding for 60 min*
1.0 oz Williamette for 30 min
1.0 oz Galena for 10 min*
* These where not available from my local home brew store

UPDATE
Just called the store and they have East Kent Goldings in now, so going with these for 60 min instead of the Fuggles as per the original recipe do you guys think this will work out better? And what should I do to replace the Galenas as they are still out of these?

 
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:46 PM   #10
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More Goldings or Fuggles. I don't understand Galena as an aroma hop for an ESB. It doesn't belong in an ESB really at all, but definitely not as aroma. IMHO

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If you already have your other hops from the first recipe I would set the Galena aside for another brew
EKG 60
Willamette 30
Fuggles10
EKG Dry hop

 
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