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Old 09-11-2008, 08:05 PM   #11
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Hey man, fly up to NJ and brew a batch on my gear and I'll tell you when you do something wrong.
Bobby,
That would be awesome, I would love to do that. I am not sure the next time I will be flying a mission that way, but I will be sure to keep this in mind.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:16 PM   #12
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Is a God da$n myth.....
For all you people getting mid 70's, 80's and 90's KISS MY ARSE....
It's not our fault your a shi**y brewer.

 
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:29 PM   #13
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Hey man, fly up to NJ and brew a batch on my gear and I'll tell you when you do something wrong.
Better watch making comments like that we're going to be lined up like the rockettes on your door step.

 
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:22 AM   #14
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It's not our fault your a shi**y brewer.
That SIR, made me laugh. Thanks
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:49 AM   #15
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Is a God da$n myth.....
For all you people getting mid 70's, 80's and 90's KISS MY ARSE....

I mean I follow all the steps here and it doesnt work.
You say add 5.2, I add it, and it doesnt work.
You say check thermometer calibratiion and I do, it doesnt work.
You say sparge at 185 degrees, I do, and whaddya know it DOESNT work.
You say, crush, crush, crush, I crush at .030" on a BC, and guess what??? It dont work for ****e....
You say, dont sparge valve full open, I dont... and it doesnt work.
You say sparge longer, I do..and it doenst work
You say, stir alot etween sparge's and I do....OMG, guess what IT DIDNT WORK...



So I say SCREW IT!!! I make good tasting beer and my frineds like it and I get druck drinking it.... I DONT CARE WHAT MY EFF IS!!!!! IT STILL MAKES BEER.
GOT IT>????

Whew...I feel a little better. I think I need another beer. " HEY WIFE....BEER ME!!"
Here is a question, are you sure you are doing the equations correctly, I have seen people do what I think are simple brewing equations before and come up with some completely wacky numbers. I am just saying check your math, and the high efficency people should probably do the same, they could be messing up their math as well.
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:12 AM   #16
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well I guess you've explored the most common stuff: getting a water report, checking your equipment design against stuff other people have working well, calibrating thermos, grain crush (too fine a crush can cause channeling and drop your eff)

some things Ive learned, make sure the lautertun is perfectly level this makes a bigger difference than you might think, a slow steady runoff while fly sparging is really important, you can always collect a larger boil volume and boil it down for a while before adding hops, this takes longer and might result in a little bit more caramelization but shouldnt have a huge effect and can help raise efficiency if the sparge is the problem.

 
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:47 AM   #17
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I'm trying to raise my eff. too. But in the long run what is a 5-10%, all of $2 on a 20 lb grain bill? Thats not worth a longer boil at todays fuel prices or my time and frustration. I plug along and every few brews change one thing at a time so I can determine if it was fluke or fact. Don't let it bother you too much. RDWHAHB. I've slowly raised my eff. from 58 to 76% and since I recently reduced MLT, BK and chiller loss deadspace by over 1.5 gallons think it may jump drastically. I'm really looking forward to the next several brews.
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Here is a question, are you sure you are doing the equations correctly, I have seen people do what I think are simple brewing equations before and come up with some completely wacky numbers. I am just saying check your math, and the high efficency people should probably do the same, they could be messing up their math as well.
I use beer tools pro to calculate but I've also done the math for giggles. They line up +/- 1%.

It's so true that there's literally only a $2-3 difference per 5 gallon batch between 70 and 85% efficiency.
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Here is a question, are you sure you are doing the equations correctly, I have seen people do what I think are simple brewing equations before and come up with some completely wacky numbers. I am just saying check your math, and the high efficency people should probably do the same, they could be messing up their math as well.

Pretty sure that this is not an issue, I am using Beer Smith, I know the old addage, gargabe in, garbaage out, BUT I am very meticulous with my measurements. (just not sooo much with my spelling).
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Old 09-12-2008, 01:55 PM   #20
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some things Ive learned, make sure the lautertun is perfectly level this makes a bigger difference than you might think.
Check, MLT is level.

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a slow steady runoff while fly sparging is really important.
Check, I batch sparge. Dont think that I am getting chanelling.

I appreciate all the tips, keep em coming, bound to get it right somehow.
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