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Old 09-04-2008, 08:44 PM   #1
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Default Who Has Used First Year Hops for Bittering

So i know this has been the topic of some discussion on this board, whether or not and how to use home grown hops for bittering. I know some do and some don't. From those who do, it's been suggested to use the median AA% as a guideline and adjust future batches based on the taste of the initial batch.

Now, all that being said, it was suggested in an earlier thread which i was reading today that the AA% of first year hops can be especially unreliable due to the supposition that the plant uses much of it's energy for rhizome / root production.

So my questions:

Who has used 1st year hops for bittering?

What variety?

What were the results?


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Old 09-04-2008, 09:09 PM   #2
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I have. Galena and Cascades. Both batches are in secondary or primary so I won't know quite yet. I based mine off the low end of the spectrum for AA%.
(Actually, I used some of my Willamette in one of those batches also)


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Old 09-04-2008, 09:15 PM   #3
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So i know this has been the topic of some discussion on this board, whether or not and how to use home grown hops for bittering. I know some do and some don't. From those who do, it's been suggested to use the median AA% as a guideline and adjust future batches based on the taste of the initial batch.

Now, all that being said, it was suggested in an earlier thread which i was reading today that the AA% of first year hops can be especially unreliable due to the supposition that the plant uses much of it's energy for rhizome / root production.

So my questions:

Who has used 1st year hops for bittering?

What variety?

What were the results?
I have.

Zues.

Bitter. As expected.

For my use, I did not go with the "median". I figured for the absolute bottom end for the variety (based on the 10 year averages). Nor did I "scale back" the amounts based on reading that HG hops are more potent as a result of better (read less vigorous) handling.

Now, once the plants are mature I will start with the median and adjust from that.
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Just tried it but I won't know until my batch is finished.
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Good question. Even though I won't have a harvest with this years' "first years", I might next year as I plan on planting more. The wifey actually approved a trellis/patio roof for four more plants. NICE!!!
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Hadn't heard this. I'll have to check it out and see how others have done.
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Used a combination of Fuggle & Cascades in a brown, all 1.25 ounces of them! Just used the median numbers. Worked ok.
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I'll be making BM's Centennial Blonde this weekend and will be using only homegrown hops. I have no idea what it'll be like but I'll drink it either way.
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I'll have a very few cones from my first year Sterling rhyzome.

plan on dry hopping with them
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I am dry hopping my 10 gallon batch of pale ale with 2 oz of home grown Centennial hops today.


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