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Old 08-26-2008, 08:16 PM   #11
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With only 15' of serving line trying to balance out 30 psi, the CO2 is more than likely being knocked out of solution as it foams up in the glass. It is foaming up as you're serving it, and when the foam clears it's flat, right?


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Old 08-26-2008, 09:38 PM   #12
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The other thing you can do is transfer to 2 liter bottles and carb those as you go. You either need to buy a carbonator cap or fashion your own using bike tire valves.
Wouldn't I need to get it fully carb'd, transfer, re-pressurize with a carb cap, and use promptly like retail sodas? Even then I'd need a 30psi secondary to keep a 2liter in reserve for when the one in the fridge kicks.

It sounds like for and kid-friendly product I'm going to need another regulator to hold the product stable at 30psi 24x7.



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Old 08-26-2008, 09:54 PM   #13
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I'm suggesting that you mix your soda in whatever fashion you do now and in what ever size format you do now and pour off some of the syrup into a 2 liter bottle with a carboy cap.

Get it cold and gas it up (30-40 psi.) and shake it up. You can serve that pretty quickly because you're working with less volume. Making the kids do all the shaking and so on can make it a mini-project.

The beauty of it is that the kids have to make more when they run out and you're not running through all of you soda in a week.

The nice thing about carbonation caps is that you can keep the bottle pressureized between servings.

The downside for the kids is that they can't pull it from the tap like Dad, but that might also be a good thing. YMMV.

IIRC David_42 talked about mixing it up on demand in small batches.
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With only 15' of serving line trying to balance out 30 psi, the CO2 is more than likely being knocked out of solution as it foams up in the glass. It is foaming up as you're serving it, and when the foam clears it's flat, right?
No foam at all. Has me stumped because it is at 30 psi and it's flatter than flat.
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Wouldn't I need to get it fully carb'd, transfer, re-pressurize with a carb cap, and use promptly like retail sodas? Even then I'd need a 30psi secondary to keep a 2liter in reserve for when the one in the fridge kicks.

It sounds like for and kid-friendly product I'm going to need another regulator to hold the product stable at 30psi 24x7.
Oh, that's right- I forgot about the carbonator cap! Duh! I used it on a 2 liter bottle of ginger ale, and it was great!

You just mix it up, chill it, and then put the co2 on at like 30 psi until it doesn't flow in any more. Shake it up, and do it a few more times. I did this over a couple of days. It carbonated quite well, and then I put on a different (regular cap) for it when I took it to a party. I was afraid that my carbonator cap would get lost. You can do that easily, especially if you don't want to make a dedicated keg to the soda! It works with root beer, too, of course.
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Is there any alternative besides having 30 ft of tubing inside your kegerator? I thought I'd seen flow resistance devices or something?

I'm assuming for carbonated water it wouldn't be a problem since there's nothing in water to make it foam up? Then you could just mix syrup or whatever you want in the glass?
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No foam at all. Has me stumped because it is at 30 psi and it's flatter than flat.
Sounds like the pressure is not getting to the keg. At 30 PSI, it should be at least fairly fizzy.
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I'd probably play around with some 1/8" ID serving line so that you don't have to coil up 30 feet.
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I'm just playing around with this, and I was wondering if it might be possible to use the "bottling from your keg" method, where you hook a bottling wand into the nozzle of the tap? Or would the pressure be too great and risk damaging something?


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