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Old 08-17-2008, 06:14 PM   #1
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So I've made my first batch of apfelwein and its been a big hit, im wanting to start another batch, but i want to mix it up a bit. What i would like to do is make a bit sweeter less dry apfelwein, i was thinking about using something along a sweet mead yeast (suggestions wanted). I was also thinking about adding some lactose to the mix but i wanted to find out a few things about it before using it. Does it leave an aftertaste like splenda ect does? When in the process should i add the lactose? Im assuming not during the fermentation process, although its non fermentable so i don't see any reason it cant be in there from the start? Any suggestions?

 
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:22 PM   #2
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Well... You can use whatever you want. It's not going to be "APELWEIN" but it can be very good.
Try Cote Des Blanc Yeast and Honey instead of sugar. Also add Yeast Nutrient, and then stabilize and back sweeten with more honey when fermentation is complete.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:10 PM   #3
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You can make the same recipe. Just stabalize and back sweeten to make it sweet instead of dry.

 
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:28 AM   #4
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Ok so being the newbie to brewing and "back sweetening" what would be the best way as well as what to add to achieve this? Should i scrap the lactose? How will back sweeting effect my carbing while during bottling?

 
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:14 AM   #5
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IF you Stabilize, you can not bottle carb. It is a trade off.
You could use Splenda. It doesn't ferment.
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Old 08-18-2008, 10:00 AM   #6
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I used White labs hefeweizen yeast for mine. Came out fairly sweet with a FG of 1.005.
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:13 PM   #7
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So here is the plan, im going to try a wyeast sweet mead yeast. as well as adding some lactose to the priming sugar when i get to that point (or should i add it before the fermentation? )

The Wyeast says it typically leaves like 1-3% sugar, which brings me to the lactose addition...... I keep reading 1 lb of lactose, but ive seen as much as .5lb or oz's for addition..... anyone have an idea on what is a good amount to achieve a slight sweetness, but not something like say a soda pop. Making this batch for the SWMBO and she would love to see something with a sweetness of say a hornsbys cider drink.

 
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Old 08-20-2008, 02:31 AM   #8
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I've used Sweet Mead yeast twice and it does not leave it sweet, or as sweet as I hoped.

Backsweetening is the way to go.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:03 PM   #9
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I would suggest 1/2# lactose at bottling. Lactose is partially fermentable, so the later you add it, the more of the sweetness you keep.

The recipe I am trying:
primary (10 days):
5 gallons apple juice
2# brown sugar
4# frozen mixed berries
Yeast (I am trying American Ale Yeast, just for fun)

secondary (2 week)

Kegging (2 weeks):
1/3 cup corn sugar
1/2# lactose

 
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:57 PM   #10
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I say ferment to completion, including any aging or clearing you want to do. When everything is done, do the scientific thing. Everyone's tastes are different, so take a measured amount of your apfelwein, say 4oz or 8oz whatever. Add a measured amount of lactose to that, taste, repeat until you get your desired sweetness. Then its a simple calculation.

Xoz of sugar = Xoz of sugar
Xoz apfelwein 5 gallons

keep in mind 128 oz per gallon.

or you can add lactose to your sample till you get your sweetness. Then measure the SG, add lactose to your whole batch till you reach that desired SG.
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