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Old 08-18-2008, 02:10 PM   #21

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really, no that's way way too much heat.

do something for me.. anyone that really wonders how much this effects honey. Go home, boil a cup of honey cool it down and then taste it side by side a non-boiled cup. Now imagine if it's fermented on top of this. This will end these threads.
I clearly spoke too soon- I guess secondary would be a more appropriate place for maple syrup to preserve as much flavor as possible.

 
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Old 08-18-2008, 02:23 PM   #22
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The owner of Long Island Meadery spoke at one my brewclub meetings and he doesn't even heat his must at all. Honey, cold water, energizer (pureed fruit if applicable) and yeast go into the fermenter.
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:25 PM   #23
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How do you recommend honey be pasteurized if, as you say, people should "STOP HEATING HONEY!!!!!!!!!!"?
See posts #4 and #22 in this thread. Pasteurization is unnecessary.
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Old 08-18-2008, 03:59 PM   #24
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See posts #4 and #22 in this thread. Pasteurization is unnecessary.
ABSOLUTELY Unnecessary!

I do commend you all for your concern for creating a sterile wort, but Honey is safe to add to your cold beer and wine.
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Old 08-18-2008, 04:13 PM   #25
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OK, so what's the end result of boiling honey? Apart from the obvious - that it won't impart any honey flavors - are you just dumping extra sugar in there?

Here's why I ask: I just did a winter warmer ale, the recipe for which called for honey to be added to the boil. I used REALLY good freakin honey which I now see was a waste of money. Also, this batch is now in its 3rd week of active fermentation. The primary had this amazing krausen on top of it for 2 1/2 weeks and the thing is still bubbling away, though slowing down.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:17 PM   #26
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schneemann since you are the perfect test case, you could just wait until your beer is ready to drink, and then report back to the rest of us whether the honey aroma and flavors came through or not.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:40 PM   #27
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Crap, I just wasted 2# of honey.....except for the sugars. I think I'll just stick to kits where it's all spelled our for me for a while.

 
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:34 PM   #28
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So, even raw honey doesn't need to be pasteurized? I'm just wondering because why would the company put a sticker on the honey marking it raw seperately from the other honey if it doesn't make a difference?
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Old 08-18-2008, 11:36 PM   #29
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I think that boiling maple syrup is fine. Maple sap is boiled for hours and hours to drive off extra liquid. Another few minutes isn't going to make any difference.

 
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:01 AM   #30
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So, even raw honey doesn't need to be pasteurized? I'm just wondering because why would the company put a sticker on the honey marking it raw seperately from the other honey if it doesn't make a difference?
Honey isn't sterile.
It won't 'go bad' because there's almost no water in it.
But the bugs are there waiting for a little water so they can go to work.

 
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