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Old 03-06-2011, 12:46 PM   #141
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Ok, I did a little more searching and research... and I made a starter. Keeping fingers crossed it will be ready Tues. Otherwise, Wed is its deadline!
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:53 PM   #142
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I'm brewing a Pliny the Elder Clone this Friday and have two vials of White Labs 001 yeast for pitching.

Should I still make a starter? If so, what's the recommended amount of DME I need to make a starter for two vials of 001?

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Old 03-09-2011, 11:02 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by antidentite View Post
I'm brewing a Pliny the Elder Clone this Friday and have two vials of White Labs 001 yeast for pitching.

Should I still make a starter? If so, what's the recommended amount of DME I need to make a starter for two vials of 001?
It certainly wouldn't hurt. I would think that a 750ml to 1000ml starter with about 2/3 or so cups of DME should work great. Somebody else will probably chime in with a more optimal starter, but SOME starter will be better than NO starter.

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Old 03-10-2011, 04:00 AM   #144
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I probably differ than most on this board about starters. I almost always make them, but never use more than one smack pack/vial in the process. I use a 4:1 ratio of water to DME. So a 1 liter(4 cups) starter would get 1 cup of DME. I let that go for a few days, cold crash, then decant and step it up with another starter if I'm going over a 1.080 OG. If not, I just use it.

I'm a cheap bastard, and if I go thru the trouble of making a starter, I don't see it as just proving my yeast as viable...I'm making more yeast.

But...that's probably an unpopular stance.
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:33 PM   #145
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I prepared a starter for a Munich Helles based on this thread. I did not decant the wort from the yeast starter prior to pitching into my lager.

Today I read this thread:

and it indicates I should decant the wort and just add the cake at the bottom.

Did I mess up my lager?

Should I be decanting the liquid from my starter?
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:04 AM   #146
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Since I didn't see this question get picked up, I want to paraphrase Stuntman's question from page 5. What's preferable: making a starter large enough to save and spread over several batches, or washing yeast after the ferment? Or does this fall under the category of "equal but different"?

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Old 03-13-2011, 12:47 PM   #147
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maltoftheearth: no worries. It'll be fine. You are just adding a little bit of beer into your soon-to-be beer. It'll ferment and taste great, so don't worry. It is still a good idea to decant off most of the starter wort beer and then swirl the cake at the bottom before pitching, but that is really only to keep your recipe and finished product as precise and predictable as possible, but it will not "hurt" your beer in any way.

Supermoth: Personally, I don't care to go to all of the trouble of making some giant starter and then trying to divide it up (and oxygenate it in the process) to save for multiple batches. The way I see it, when you make a 5gal batch of beer, you have also just made a giant starter, so just wash your yeast. It's not the best idea to wash after every batch because some brews are not conducive to leaving behind healthy yeast, namely really high alcohol beers and really hoppy beers. Hop oils coat the yeast cells, so unless you plan on doing an acid wash on the yeast, just harvest from your next less hoppy brew. High alcohol levels pretty much just eff your yeast over, then you are dealing with a lot more dead or mutated yeast, so just harvest from your next session beer.

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Old 03-20-2011, 01:52 PM   #148
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ok here's a big newbie question but should I make a starter for dry yeast also or only liquid ?

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Old 03-20-2011, 03:35 PM   #149
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This thread is on of the reasons I love this site, it makes every new thing I want to try informative and easy!

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Old 03-20-2011, 03:47 PM   #150
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i do all the same but i just leave the lid on tight then crack it just a lil to let the co2 ecscape never had any problems
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