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Old 07-31-2008, 03:08 PM   #11
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Bobby, I would say you have a direct-fired MLT, not RIMS. By convention, RIMS usually refers to pumping the wort out of the MLT, over a heating element, and back to the mash. RIMS is typically seen as different from direct-fire and HERMS.

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I can see the confusion though because a typical 3-tier does NOT include a pump which is required for RIMS/HERMS. Once you get a pump to do RIMS/HERMS, it quickly becomes obvious that you can cut your stand down at least one tier.
This is the exact reason I decided to move to a single-tier stand. I had the pump for recirculating the mash on my 3-tier and realized I didn't really need gravity anymore.

There are some really nice multi-tiered stands that use RIMS/HERMS though. MonsterMash's system is a great DIY example of 3-tier + HERMS, the morebeer.com sculptures can have digital automation through a HERMS coil, and the Brew Magic is a 2-tier that automates the use of an external RIMS heating element.



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Old 06-05-2012, 04:08 PM   #12
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Hey guys,

great thread! definitely some very useful info here. No how about us who are currently no sparge mashing. would gravity be the best method?


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Old 06-05-2012, 05:36 PM   #13
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Gotta agree with Bobby here that RIMS is just a recirculating mash with no implication what the heat source is. RIMS is kind of a generic term that people usually apply to a system where the wort is directly heated outside the mash tun.
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Old 06-05-2012, 07:28 PM   #14
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I don't have any RIMS experience, but I have tried gravity fed rigs and now use a two pump HERMS system and really prefer it. Lots of simple add ons. Makes. Brew day fun
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:31 PM   #15
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Sparkys write up is very informative the only thing i would add is what are your storage limitations. If your storage area is tight sometimes a brew tree (3 tier) can be made to pack up into a smaller footprint. This is the case for me and the people i typically brew with.
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Old 06-06-2012, 05:01 AM   #16
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Sparkys write up is very informative the only thing i would add is what are your storage limitations. If your storage area is tight sometimes a brew tree (3 tier) can be made to pack up into a smaller footprint. This is the case for me and the people i typically brew with.
So can a 2 - tier done right...

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Old 06-06-2012, 12:13 PM   #17
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Since I'm new to all grain (haven't even done my first batch yet) where an I go to get a good explanation of how each process, Rims vs herms vs gravity goes.

Like what are the pros and cons for each
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:18 PM   #18
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very true one hoppy guy i really like that setup it would look much better in my garage though
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Old 06-06-2012, 02:18 PM   #19
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very true one hoppy guy i really like that setup it would look much better in my garage though

PM the owner, I'm sure he'll be willing to share.
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Old 06-06-2012, 03:48 PM   #20
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Here's my 2-tier with a RIMS tube. It's an all electric rig now, but was previously hybrid with a propane fired HLT and BK. RIMS tube had a 5500W SS element running at 120v. The re-tooled rig has a 2000W 220V element. It maintains mash temps very well.



And a closeup of the RIMS tube.


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