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Old 07-09-2008, 08:40 PM   #11
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:41 PM   #12
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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Ben Franklin
Funny you mention Ben, I'm reading his biography by Isaacson. This country is steadily heading in the opposite direction from what he had in mind...


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Funny you mention Ben, I'm reading his biography by Isaacson. This country is steadily heading in the opposite direction from what he had in mind...
I am still working on McCullough's bio on Adams. I want to get to that Franklin bio. I don't think many of the founding father's would be very pleased with where we are headed, 'cept maybe Hamilton, but he was a jerk anyway.
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I am still working on McCullough's bio on Adams. I want to get to that Franklin bio. I don't think many of the founding father's would be very pleased with where we are headed, 'cept maybe Hamilton, but he was a jerk anyway.
This Franklin bio is excellent. I like Isaacson's style though, including his bio of Einstein...
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Obama voted Aye and McCain didn't bother to vote at all.
indeed. I don't think I can vote for him anymore.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:10 PM   #16
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indeed. I don't think I can vote for him anymore.
Unfortunately that is our system.. you just end up voting for the lesser of the two evils.
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Unfortunately that is our system.. you just end up voting for the lesser of the two evils.
nah I'll find a third candidate(better than not voting right?). But I cannot in good conscience vote for McCain or Obama. This is a principle I stand very very firmly on. He lost my vote today.
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nah I'll find a third candidate(better than not voting right?). But I cannot in good conscience vote for McCain or Obama. This is a principle I stand very very firmly on. He lost my vote today.
+1...I feel the same was pretty much. I feel like I'm wasting my vote, but I don't want either of them...
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It would be great if a 3rd party candidate would emerge and we elected him while at the same time tossing every incumbent congrASSman out on their ears.
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it almost seems that in the primary you vote for who you actually like then in the main election you vote against the guy you like the least.


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